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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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additionally july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying bist has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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bespoke radio

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today is tuesday august 31st

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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but it is beautiful i mean it's really

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i'm just

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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far and near this is spade to black

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for kjcr the game changer network and

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the planets i'm yours jimmy church what

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is crackin everybody how you doing

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did i say

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talk about all of that in just a minute

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tonight we welcome the very special

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guest the one and only

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jim harold

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you know

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what's going on

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i pushed this show out as the voice of

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the paranormal jim harold he's been

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doing this for a very very long time and

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for jim and what he has accomplished but

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he is just a great orator he he knows

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and audio and analog versus digital and

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and all of that and he's like man this

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is so much fun and it was like before

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you think that this is a show jim we're

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talking about ghosts tonight

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but i can talk audio forever and uh

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daryl anka is a stopping by that's right

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he channels bashar

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i've been i've been speaking about this

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that in just a minute now i do want to

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remind everybody it's coming up man it's

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coming up quick tomorrow is september

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okay now i will be hosting the conscious

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life expo

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this september 17th through the 19th at

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the lax hilton now you can get your

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tickets and info right now at

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consciouslifeexpo.com go check it out i

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want to see everybody in person let's

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let's get together man let's get

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together we're going to have the fade to

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black booth there i'll be hanging out

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all weekend it's the lax hilton this is

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that you can go and live stream to your

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heart's content uh you're gonna

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hilton and live at the hilton in london

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the united kingdom so this is going on

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the uh london events and if you can't

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attend which i understand we all do then

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all right now coming up um

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gomez today he's like okay so jimmy are

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revelations so we're gonna give away two

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for the movie and i want all of you to

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come and hang out if you're in los

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going to walk my own red carpet but uh

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saturday september 11th so we've got a

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busy month in front of us and uh a bunch

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okay so that's enough for now follow me

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on twitter at j church radio

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at jay turns radio

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and uh hashtag f2b is the sandbox on

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twitter hello everybody there

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brian says welcome to the big time i

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know right you bring your own red carpet

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that is the big time

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hashtag f2b on twitter right there okay

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go and check it out let's get to the

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breaking news and and i'm just gonna let

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everybody know because the show got cut

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because it's just too important and i

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and wheel of fortune all of this from

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sony the company behind the two shows

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they announced all of this today the

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news comes after a crazy month for

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uh in which richards was you know he was

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having been named in multiple

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discrimination lawsuits going back to

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2010. details also surfaced about

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derogatory comments richards made on a

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podcast for which he apologized but in

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today's world that simply is not good

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enough and some are saying also he was

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executive producer and he kind of

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for levar burton i think lavar

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the new host of jeopardy that's my take

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that's personal uh to me

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but there you go all right i i i did

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this last night i'm gonna do it again

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tonight leaded gasoline

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has finally reached the end of the road

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after algeria the last country in the

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world to use it stopped selling the

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highly toxic fuel

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algeria halted the sale of leaded gas

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last month prompting the

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official end of its use in cars which

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has been blamed for a wide range of

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that's right blane

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a widespread shortage of liquid oxygen

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delta variant hospitals use liquid

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oxygen as a source of oxygen

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for ventilators

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all right now again

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i said this last night this sounds like

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something that's made up

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sounds like i you know i again like fade

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to black is satire

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fade to black is the onion but it is not

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no

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so here you go

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nasa

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has cut a 10 cent check

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to space startup lunar outpost in the

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first ever payment to a company

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to mine

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on the moon

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nasa administrator bill nelson who does

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believe in ufos by the way presented

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justin cyrus ceo of colorado based

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startup lunar outpost with the first

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payment ever issued to a company as part

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of a space resource contract

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announced this past august 23rd at the

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36th annual space symposium the check

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which was just for 10 cents

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or 10

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of lunar outpost one dollar bid

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and it's going to go towards the

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company's efforts to collect lunar dust

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or regolith

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for nasa

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all right let's get to show cracking

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happy birthday to today

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chris tucker

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i want to fade or not right now in

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twitter

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to vote

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chris tucker what was the better movie

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barber shop

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or the fifth element

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i'm going there right now

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where do you go

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right that's a tough call isn't it

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barbershop

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let's see what you guys have to say

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richard gere today is 72 the mothman

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prophecies is certainly his best film

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debbie gibson today is 51.

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van morrison is 76

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van morrison moon dance

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moon dance

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brown eyed girl

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the scorpions rudolph shanker today is

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73.

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man we're getting old go-go's drummer

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gina shock is 64.

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squeeze front man glenn tilbridge hot

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coffee in bed today

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is 64 and guitarist reb beach

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today is 58. our dead guy's birthday

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today is

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bob welch

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1945 to 2012

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died at the age of 66. bob

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was the guitar player and singer for

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fleetwood mac from 1971 to 1974

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yeah it was bob singing the vocals on

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their hit

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hypnotized

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he also had a successful solo career

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with hits ebony eyes right

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and sentimental lady

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bob had undergone spinal surgery three

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months prior to his death and despite

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the surgery doctors told him his

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prognosis for recovery was extremely

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poor

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and he would eventually become an

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invalid

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so on june 7 2012 around 6 a.m in the

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morning

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welch died by suicide shooting himself

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in his nashville home he was just 66

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years old

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wow on this day in history otd

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diana princess of wales

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affectionately known as the people's

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princess

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dies in a car crash in paris i'll never

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forget that night i had a desk in my

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living room

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in sherman oaks and i'm on my laptop

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1997 right i'm like in aol

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i'm on my laptop and i have the news on

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in the background and i hear it

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breaking news

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and and i was just kind of listening on

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breaking news you know that that music

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that they play

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and they announced it and i spun around

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and i'm looking at the tv i couldn't

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believe it

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got it from the computer

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and went over and sat on the couch and i

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just watched

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uh the news for the rest of the night

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that was just a crazy day fader fact

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french actor gerard depardieu

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was denied the use of toilets because

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the seat belt signs were lit on his

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flight

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he proceeded to pee in a bottle which

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overflowed and created a biohazard

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so the plane had to turn back

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land and then kick gerard

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off the plane

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that's your fader fact today you get

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arrested tonight we welcome very special

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guest jim harold the voice of the

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paranormal is here tomorrow night daryl

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anka stops by to talk about his new film

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alienated i'm going to talk about that

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right now and then thursday night ryan

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speigh uh joins us rescheduling for last

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night and we will try another attempt

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at a conversation about ufos all right

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so that's thursday night right now let

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me hit this river moon coffee thank you

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juanita and jeff best company in the

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fade to black blend

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yeah you blend

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happy birthday rudolph that's cool man

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rudolph shanker

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man man man

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check that out thank you for that brian

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that's a great gift that's rudolph man

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that that's him

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man i got to get me a white flying v

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i've been looking at the dean michael

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shanker flying v's

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yeah bit on the expensive side dean

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dean needs to send me one of those man

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man man need a flying v all right i

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wanted to get all of you caught up on my

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tv and cinema viewing

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and uh so much to cover

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and you know i do this from time to time

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and the stuff that i usually share and

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recommend with all of you is is pretty

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much out of the mainstream you know for

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the most part but

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i try to give you those hidden gems

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that become

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our little secret right where you go and

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you watch it and you feel just like i do

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right oh man

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right okay

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00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:39,200
well um first up tonight i want to talk

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max cloud

444
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oh man this is something that you really

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need to see first because it's just

446
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plain cool and it's funny but but second

447
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and no spoilers here you don't have to

448
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worry about that it's a movie about a

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gamer

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who

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scroller right

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okay

453
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you know mortal kombat or whatever those

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you know those 2d scroller

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things and anyway

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and then

457
00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:21,520
finds this easter egg and gets sucked

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into the game literally through a portal

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that's all i'm going to say you need to

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check out the movie it's called max

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cloud it's a comedy

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and it's totally worth it okay so i'm

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just gonna leave

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that right there

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max cloud

466
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somebody is going to

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uh pop this up in twitter what's this

468
00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:46,880
the black vault flash incoming document

469
00:22:51,390 --> 00:22:49,360
dump later today internet internal

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00:22:54,350 --> 00:22:51,400
emails with the

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d-o-d-o-i-g regarding the uap

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evaluation

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they announced in may

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one nugget brian bender's article was

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circulated and a familiar name said he

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would explain more verbal only

477
00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:10,559
in a skiff uh very interesting that

478
00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:13,600
coming in from the black vault thank you

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tb

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to

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um how do i say this uh

482
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seriously i'm just gonna say just

483
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finished binging over an apple tv

484
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two series

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right and

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one

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ted lasso

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right and the other

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mythic quest now i talked about both of

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them last year uh for season one and the

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second season of ted lasso may actually

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be better than the first which says a

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lot jason uh sedicus is is one of the

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funniest guys in in all of hollywood for

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sure but his comedic lines and lasso are

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emmy worthy all the way

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and yeah i'm stealing some of them i am

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uh i need to start writing them down i'm

499
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going to go back and watch second season

500
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again and

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and uh

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and pick up some of these one-liners

503
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they're just so funny but i want to

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mention uh brett goldstein as roy kent

505
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absolutely brilliant and if you haven't

506
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seen ted lasso go and watch both seasons

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it's just a great series and i know it's

508
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mainstream it's apple tv it's not my

509
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normal you know underground thing but

510
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ted lasso is really really good but my

511
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underground thing

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on apple tv

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is mythic quest and the first season

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when i can i i spent many shows last

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year

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talking about it

517
00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:45,520
it's just it's a it's about a a gaming

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00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:46,400
company

519
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:48,400
developing games and their game that

520
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they

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quest

522
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and that's what you know the series name

523
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comes from

524
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so there's that but season two is

525
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equally as good as season one the

526
00:25:04,149 --> 00:25:02,480
writing and acting are just top-notch

527
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:04,159
and it's really funny there's one

528
00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:05,120
problem

529
00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:08,960
with both lasso and mq though

530
00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:11,760
there are about four episodes too short

531
00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:14,320
okay you can binge these uh they're 25

532
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:16,720
minutes each whatever and you can binge

533
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:19,440
all eight episodes in in four hours so

534
00:25:23,909 --> 00:25:21,279
you can do all of that in one night and

535
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:23,919
it's just not enough um

536
00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:27,039
uh and just when mythicquest you know

537
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:30,080
starts to hit its stride this season

538
00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:31,760
spoiler alert

539
00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:34,559
they just end it

540
00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:36,720
for no apparent reason

541
00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:38,000
in fact

542
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:40,480
they killed the show that's right i'm

543
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:42,400
not sure what is going on

544
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:44,320
but season three

545
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:46,720
won't have the same title

546
00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:48,320
if it happens

547
00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:50,960
it's going to be called hera you have to

548
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:52,080
watch it

549
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:57,360
end to the very last sentence

550
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:58,960
of the last episode to understand what

551
00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:00,400
i'm saying here but

552
00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:03,200
seriously chopped it man it just ended

553
00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:05,520
too quickly i've just finished season

554
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:07,279
five of rick and morty

555
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:09,840
and there is allegedly a season finale

556
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:12,240
that is still to air but i don't have a

557
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:14,240
confirmed date yet i thought i saw a

558
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,760
commercial or two and then those have

559
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:17,520
stopped so i don't know but there is no

560
00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:18,880
question rick and morty is quite

561
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:21,440
possibly the best tv series in the world

562
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:24,400
maybe of all time it's that good

563
00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:26,720
now i just watched daryl anka's

564
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:28,240
alienated

565
00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:31,360
and this is your classic low budget film

566
00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:33,679
with a great magical cast

567
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:36,559
who act their butts off a film that in

568
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:38,640
the end you're so glad that you watched

569
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:40,240
it you just want to tell everybody about

570
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it it's really that good daryl wrote and

571
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directed it he's going to be on with us

572
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:47,520
tomorrow to talk about it but you should

573
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:49,440
check it out before the show so you can

574
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know exactly what we'll be talking about

575
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:54,400
and my enthusiasm for the film

576
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:56,320
now check this out

577
00:27:04,230 --> 00:26:58,240
it's a love story

578
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:04,240
and a physicist that's right so stay

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with me

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00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,559
and

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00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:08,480
gracie lacey

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as the quirky alien artist absolutely

583
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:14,240
steals the show everybody is great the

584
00:27:18,149 --> 00:27:16,080
casting is spot-on the writing is

585
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:18,159
excellent but if you ever thought that

586
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:21,120
an e.t love story couldn't be pulled off

587
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:24,640
gracie shows you that it is possible

588
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:27,760
seriously gracie lacey

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she's amazing daryl's knowledge of ufos

590
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:31,840
and all the tiny

591
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:34,080
details inside of our community shine

592
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through

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the story is very clever

594
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and when you you know watch it you'll

595
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feel like this project this film

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00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:46,880
was made for you and i'm not kidding at

597
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one point uh two nights ago when i'm

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00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:50,640
watching the film i found myself just

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sucked into the e.t soap opera

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it's got it all in there man

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it's like an episode of fade to black

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00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:00,559
and the ending is nearly perfect

603
00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:03,200
not your typical hollywood thing no far

604
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:06,320
from it films uh you know just never end

605
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:08,240
this way you have to check it out see it

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00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:09,039
but

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daryl did it right

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now just remember when you watch the

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film remember my words right now

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00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:19,039
remember the guy crawling on his hands

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and knees yelling

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no

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it's freaking priceless

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and also i want to mention everybody

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00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:31,120
i finished the netflix series about john

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of god

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and uh now

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no matter what you think no matter what

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you've heard about or what rabbit hole

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you jump down

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uh with john of god over the years

622
00:28:48,950 --> 00:28:47,120
you need to watch this uh we all know i

623
00:28:50,710 --> 00:28:48,960
announced him being arrested back in

624
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:50,720
2018

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and uh this series

626
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is a must watch

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00:29:01,350 --> 00:28:59,120
so i'm going to leave it right there you

628
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:01,360
know about what happened you know about

629
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his arrest and you know about the claims

630
00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:07,039
okay this is a four-power uh docu-series

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on netflix

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uh that that needs to be watched i have

633
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a lot of friends that went down

634
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:16,640
and visited john of god in brazil so

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this story and this uh docu-series is

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something that all fader knots need to

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go and see so with that i'm going to

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take a

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quick break because tonight he's ready

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by the way he's right here

641
00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:33,360
he's right here he's right next to me

642
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:35,679
jim harold hold on

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i'll uh

644
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i'll do this and i'll do this so jim can

645
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hear me but he he can say whatever he

646
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wants but he's just yelling

647
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into the ether this is fade to black

648
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tonight jim harold the voice

649
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of the paranormal is here tomorrow night

650
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:53,120
daryl anka he's stopping by to talk

651
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about his new film he wrote it and

652
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:57,360
directed it it is called alienated

653
00:30:01,909 --> 00:30:00,159
thursday night ryan sprague joins us for

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another attempt at a conversation about

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ufos i'm your host jimmy church this is

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fade to block and the game changer

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network and

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the planet i'll be right back with jim

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harold after this short break stay with

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us

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this is nicole church daughter of you

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight jim

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harold

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tomorrow night daryl anka thursday night

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ryan spring

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that's what i'm talking about that's

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uh and tonight you know this is the deal

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jim harold is is back with us

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and we are going to listen to jim's

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amazing sometimes scary and always

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entertaining

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paranormal tales

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you know as well as talk host to host

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and i want to find out what makes jim so

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well you know driven

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and how does he sound so good we're

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going to get to some of that tonight he

774
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is the host of course of the paranormal

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podcast and jim harold's campfire he is

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celebrating are you ready he's going on

777
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:45,760
his 17th year of podcasting of the

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00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:47,920
unknown before becoming a full-time

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00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:50,880
podcaster back in 2012 he worked on the

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side of media for over 15 years the one

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that isn't that fun because today

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jim has fun he has written a popular

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series of five campfire books featuring

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the best tales of the unknown from his

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podcast true ghost stories jim harold's

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campfires you ready one two three four

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and five all kindle number one

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supernatural bestsellers his programs

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have been downloaded are you ready for

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this

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over 50 million times the paranormal

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podcast and jim harold's campfire among

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the top one percent of the most

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downloaded podcast on the industry's

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largest podcast host libsyn which is my

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hosting service and i'm going to tell

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you right now i'm about 40 million short

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of big jim harold all of his uh podcasts

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and links and everything are over at

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jimmychurchradio.com

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00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:43,119
they're right there and i would like to

802
00:36:47,829 --> 00:36:45,200
welcome back to fade to black jim harold

803
00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:47,839
jim you know um welcome back to the show

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00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:49,440
and and i know that

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that i tease you

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00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:53,520
i tease you because i'm jealous all

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right

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00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:57,280
it's really it's really that simple man

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00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:59,040
you've been doing this for a very long

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time

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00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:04,160
and there is a lot going on now not only

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00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:07,200
in the podcast world but in this

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00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:10,880
paranormal supernatural ufo sphere that

814
00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:12,960
you and i find ourselves in

815
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:16,720
and to to be at the top of that

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00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:18,560
says everything so

817
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:21,440
again congratulations man and hard work

818
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:23,760
pays off doesn't it

819
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:25,359
well i think so but thank you first of

820
00:37:28,710 --> 00:37:27,040
all thank you it's so good to be back

821
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:28,720
with you and the fader knots i really

822
00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:30,880
appreciate it and uh

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00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:33,440
really very generous thank you and i

824
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:35,839
just love what i do i am and i know you

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00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:37,839
feel the same way i feel very blessed to

826
00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:40,800
get to do what i get to do i have great

827
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:43,280
listeners like you have your fate or not

828
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:44,880
and they're very supportive and i'm just

829
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:46,640
thankful i get to come in here every day

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00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:48,960
and do this i mean hey it's a pretty

831
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:51,359
good gig i i really enjoy it because you

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00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:53,040
know it goes back to being a little kid

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00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:55,839
in the 70s and watching in search of and

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i was fascinated then and guess what all

835
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these years later i'm still fascinated

836
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and get to do it for a living are you

837
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joking it gets it's pretty good it's

838
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:06,240
pretty good now um uh i i want to ask

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you a couple of questions that uh you

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you probably never get asked but you

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know what i do right okay

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so um

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when you uh went to your wife and said

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hey honey

845
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:26,630
i i want to do this full time

846
00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:28,400
and and and

847
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:32,000
women moms wives they're the protectors

848
00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:35,359
of your world right oh sure right and

849
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:37,680
you want to take away a little bit of

850
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:39,359
their protection

851
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:41,599
right they need you

852
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:43,280
to keep

853
00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:44,800
their world

854
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:46,640
safe and secure

855
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:49,200
and they don't want to hear that you

856
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:51,250
know honey i want to quit my job

857
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:53,680
[Laughter]

858
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:55,200
i want to get that i want to get the

859
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:57,280
band back together

860
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:58,400
yeah

861
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:59,119
well

862
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:01,520
the thing was is that my wife dar was

863
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:04,320
very supportive because this wasn't like

864
00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:06,480
it wasn't like i started a podcast one

865
00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:08,240
day and said hey i want to quit my job

866
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:09,440
tomorrow

867
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:11,599
it was really over the course of a

868
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:14,800
number of years

869
00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:17,599
what was it was seven years so and i

870
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:18,960
what had happened was a couple of years

871
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:21,440
before i had started my plus club and i

872
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:22,880
started noticing

873
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:24,880
the income on that was coming up and i'm

874
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:26,800
like well wait a minute it kept growing

875
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:28,079
and growing and growing and my

876
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:29,760
listenership kept growing and i'm like

877
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:31,920
wait a minute if i could do this full

878
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:34,800
time i could do you know uh better than

879
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:35,920
i could

880
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:36,880
uh

881
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:38,560
doing what i'm doing now and trying to

882
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:40,720
do this on the side because i basically

883
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:42,400
worked a full-time job

884
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:43,680
for at least

885
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:45,359
two full-time jobs really for about

886
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:48,400
three four years a full-time job that i

887
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:50,240
got paid for and i did a good job for

888
00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:52,880
those folks i think and i came home and

889
00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:54,800
i worked another full-time job doing my

890
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:56,720
podcast and and she knew something had

891
00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:57,680
to give

892
00:40:01,750 --> 00:40:00,000
and uh she had faith in me and i'm

893
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:01,760
forever grateful for that because that

894
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:03,440
has allowed us to do this for the last

895
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:05,680
nine years full time so but i get what

896
00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:07,119
you're saying because it is scary but

897
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:08,800
the way i always thought hey if it

898
00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:10,800
doesn't work out i can go get another ad

899
00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:12,880
sales job

900
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:14,400
okay

901
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:15,760
but you didn't really answer the

902
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:16,800
question

903
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:18,480
okay okay

904
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:19,520
i mean

905
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:22,000
what was her reaction

906
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:26,400
positive you know because you need

907
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:29,520
whoever you know as a husband you need

908
00:40:33,510 --> 00:40:31,680
that positive reinforcement and if

909
00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:33,520
there's a little bit of doubt and then

910
00:40:37,589 --> 00:40:35,839
that doubt you know in them

911
00:40:39,829 --> 00:40:37,599
it comes back to you

912
00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:39,839
which flows back into the podcast it

913
00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:41,440
flows into the way you speak into the

914
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:42,640
microphone

915
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:44,240
you need that you know the full team

916
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:47,200
support and was she right there

917
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:50,000
oh i think so i mean i felt it from

918
00:40:53,410 --> 00:40:52,000
you know i if it had been three four

919
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:53,420
years earlier no way

920
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:54,880
[Laughter]

921
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:57,359
but i had kind of proven you know this

922
00:41:00,630 --> 00:40:58,560
is working

923
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:00,640
and i think it just made common sense at

924
00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:03,119
the time and now she was

925
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,400
i don't think she could have been any

926
00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:06,400
more supportive i was very lucky that

927
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:09,280
way again i think it's because i had

928
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:11,680
kind of you know i could show her on

929
00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:13,359
paper and say look at this and look at

930
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:15,119
this and look at this it makes sense and

931
00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:17,920
the funny thing is back in 2012 you know

932
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:20,240
podcasting is super red hot right now

933
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:21,920
everybody wants to have a podcast

934
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:25,280
everybody has a podcast but it was still

935
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:26,640
you know

936
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:27,839
um

937
00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:29,839
kind of like well i think i know what a

938
00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:31,839
podcast is but i'm not sure so i really

939
00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:34,960
took a lot of faith in in me for her to

940
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:37,040
to give me the green light and an

941
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:40,960
enthusiastic green light so again uh i i

942
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:43,200
she showed nothing but great support

943
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:44,480
and uh

944
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:48,160
uh it's been great yeah today it's uh it

945
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:50,319
just must be wonderful and i know that

946
00:41:55,109 --> 00:41:52,400
uh you guys uh just

947
00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:55,119
just moved and you built a new studio

948
00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:58,800
and i'm always you know i this is uh my

949
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:01,359
second studio in the last six months

950
00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:03,440
this one that i just finished

951
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:06,079
and uh it's a lot of work to take

952
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:08,560
everything down to put it back together

953
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:12,079
um uh most people don't understand uh

954
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:14,240
the complexity and the technical things

955
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,079
that that go along with that in the

956
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:18,640
mountains and boxes of cables and all of

957
00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:20,079
that but

958
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:22,880
you just did that and the studio looks

959
00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:26,079
great but i followed your little uh

960
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:29,440
your little uh i almost want to say uh

961
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:30,800
the drama

962
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:34,640
uh behind the studio because it is about

963
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:37,280
it's about sound deadening material as

964
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:40,560
as boring as that's a big deal it's

965
00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:42,480
sure it is it's more in a way it's more

966
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:43,760
important than the mic you use because

967
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,040
if you're in a

968
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:47,520
poorly or non-treated space and you've

969
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:49,760
got a great mic it doesn't matter it

970
00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:52,079
bounces off the walls and so it's the

971
00:42:56,069 --> 00:42:54,880
whole picture yeah yeah and my new

972
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:56,079
studio

973
00:43:03,030 --> 00:42:59,119
uh i've got tile floors carpet you know

974
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:03,040
now uh uh has been installed i've got uh

975
00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:05,680
sound deadening material on

976
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:07,040
four walls

977
00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:09,280
no actually five you know the back wall

978
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:11,119
behind me that's a half inch of sound

979
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:14,079
deadening uh material over that back

980
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:16,880
wall so there's 25 feet of it there

981
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:17,680
four

982
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:20,000
uh eight square feet over here another

983
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:22,079
eight square six

984
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:25,760
i know there's four uh 12 12

985
00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:28,240
and and this and and i still have

986
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:29,680
reflections

987
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:32,400
right and i can't stop it it's tough

988
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:34,319
i think they put up the company that did

989
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:37,280
this automute i think they put up 26

990
00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:38,400
panels

991
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:41,359
and this is like a 10 by 12

992
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:44,400
converted bedroom and they put up 26

993
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:46,079
panels i'm like are you sure you need

994
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:47,920
that money and they're like yeah we we

995
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:50,000
need them yeah i'm thinking i got to do

996
00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:52,640
my ceiling um and i've got to hit my

997
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:57,280
corners and it's it's weird i still hear

998
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:58,960
a little bit right

999
00:44:02,470 --> 00:44:01,200
so kind of i'm always and i'm guilty of

1000
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:02,480
this too you're listening through a

1001
00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:04,560
broadcaster's ears because to most

1002
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:06,880
people they're like you sound great

1003
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:09,040
you know but uh if something's a little

1004
00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:11,119
bit off you you you know i mean the

1005
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:13,040
funny thing is i'm constantly tweaking

1006
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:16,720
my sound um using new ways to edit you

1007
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:18,240
know we do our campfire show and

1008
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,800
sometimes people are not calling in

1009
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:22,480
on the best connections and there's not

1010
00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:24,160
much you can do to fix that you know

1011
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:26,319
garbage and garbage out in terms of

1012
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:28,880
sound quality but we've started using

1013
00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:31,119
some new software i mean i'm all that's

1014
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:33,040
the one thing people might not get i've

1015
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:34,640
been doing this 16 years but i'm always

1016
00:44:39,109 --> 00:44:37,280
trying to figure out a better way

1017
00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:39,119
and i think that's important because if

1018
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:41,119
you just kind of sit there and say okay

1019
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:42,720
well the way i've always done it is

1020
00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:45,040
perfect and you know

1021
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:47,599
there's young hungry people out there so

1022
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:49,680
i just want to be as young and i want to

1023
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:51,119
be as young but i'm not going to be as

1024
00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:52,640
young but i want to be as hungry as they

1025
00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:54,640
are and always looking to do better yeah

1026
00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:56,240
that's really important

1027
00:45:02,069 --> 00:44:58,480
my next check this out

1028
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:02,079
over i could i could go grab it i won't

1029
00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:04,400
but sitting in the box right there

1030
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:07,280
tascam just sent me an eight-channel

1031
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:09,040
uh compressor

1032
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:13,440
okay now uh that is going to be used for

1033
00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:15,200
my phone lines

1034
00:45:19,349 --> 00:45:17,119
uh and the commercials and some other

1035
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:19,359
stuff but eight channels right i've

1036
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:20,720
already got

1037
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:21,520
uh

1038
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:23,119
[Laughter]

1039
00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:24,319
uh

1040
00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:28,319
12 12 and four

1041
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:31,760
i mean uh uh uh six and four i've got 20

1042
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:33,760
channels of compression here

1043
00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:35,200
and that's you would think that that's

1044
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:37,760
enough it's not i need more yeah well

1045
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:40,319
live is a you know you do live i just do

1046
00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:43,359
podcast podcast is easy in a way because

1047
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:45,440
you can go back and you can fix things

1048
00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:46,800
or you know i don't like that

1049
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:48,720
compression i could rerun the algorithm

1050
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:51,119
or whatever but with live it's got to

1051
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:53,520
sound great right out of the box and

1052
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:55,040
that's that's an extra challenge you

1053
00:45:59,190 --> 00:45:57,200
know i do

1054
00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:59,200
some not as much lately but some live

1055
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:01,760
streaming and i am not video streaming

1056
00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:03,839
i'm not happy with my audio on my live

1057
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:06,480
streams you know i because i want it to

1058
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:09,280
sound great and um you know unless you

1059
00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:11,440
get into and i've i used to run all the

1060
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:13,520
outboard equipment and dbx units and

1061
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:14,880
stuff like that

1062
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:17,280
but uh you know nobody's really kind of

1063
00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:19,280
licked that unless you go to that that

1064
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:22,720
extreme and uh but you know again to the

1065
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:24,400
average person they're like oh you sound

1066
00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:26,480
great jimmy sounds great jim sounds

1067
00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:29,440
pretty good uh but i we're both the same

1068
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:31,839
we we always want to be better yeah yeah

1069
00:46:36,309 --> 00:46:34,079
i'm constantly

1070
00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:36,319
constantly improving things and and

1071
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:38,079
you're right though i i can't run

1072
00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:39,440
software

1073
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:42,160
uh all of my stuff is i'm running all

1074
00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:43,760
analog

1075
00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:47,119
cables plugged in and

1076
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:49,040
and this is a live show and it has i

1077
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:51,040
don't i don't record on computers by the

1078
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:53,359
way i only record on hardware units i

1079
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:54,720
don't trust

1080
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:58,000
computers for recording

1081
00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:00,880
i i i always run on an outboard computer

1082
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:02,880
because when i'm doing an interview i

1083
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:04,560
mean on an outboard hardware unit

1084
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:06,560
because that way i know i have the

1085
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:09,119
recording yep uh but

1086
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:11,359
anyhow yeah i i don't know if i'm boring

1087
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:13,359
people to death with all this shop

1088
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:15,200
but i i love it because i love the

1089
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:17,200
paranormal stuff and i also love to talk

1090
00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:20,319
shop yeah i it's it's it's funny because

1091
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:22,720
we do these shows and

1092
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:25,359
you know the the three hours that i'm

1093
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:27,440
live every night that's one thing

1094
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:30,240
there's another eight hours uh before

1095
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:31,040
that

1096
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:33,760
which is all tech it's all tech there's

1097
00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:36,480
always stuff to do and

1098
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:38,720
it's a it's a really big part of this i

1099
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:41,760
wish i just came in and flipped a switch

1100
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:44,559
it's you know it's it's never it's never

1101
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:47,200
that way um now real quick before we

1102
00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:48,480
move on

1103
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:51,280
um i'm very jealous about your

1104
00:47:53,990 --> 00:47:52,640
microphone

1105
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:54,000
and uh

1106
00:47:59,190 --> 00:47:57,119
and not to talk anymore shop but what

1107
00:48:01,390 --> 00:47:59,200
kind of microphone do you use

1108
00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:01,400
it is well the new one is a

1109
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:03,920
tlm-103 which is a neumann that's a

1110
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:06,079
german manufacturer who's very well

1111
00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:07,920
known for making some of the world's

1112
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:10,800
best microphones and the thing was is

1113
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:12,559
that when we had this fully treated

1114
00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:15,200
studio i said you know i want to see if

1115
00:48:20,710 --> 00:48:18,720
i can kick my mic up a notch and

1116
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:20,720
that was about as high as i could reach

1117
00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:22,880
because there's other units like the u87

1118
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:25,040
we have this discussion earlier that are

1119
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:27,119
like three thousand dollars but you know

1120
00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:30,160
a tlm-103 it'd be a very common mic for

1121
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:32,240
like npr or something like that i would

1122
00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:32,960
think

1123
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:34,400
so um

1124
00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:37,200
it's a really nice mic it's uh

1125
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:38,559
jimmy you're very familiar with this

1126
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:42,000
terminology it's a a large diaphragm

1127
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:44,640
condenser mic it's very sensitive

1128
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:47,280
but i like i like the sound of it and i

1129
00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:49,040
i should mention

1130
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:50,319
my daughter

1131
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,040
just started a podcast and i'm loving

1132
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:55,680
the sound of her voice she graduated

1133
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:58,079
college this last year and i'm loving

1134
00:49:01,829 --> 00:48:59,440
the sound of her

1135
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:01,839
voice on this mic i'm like okay it was

1136
00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:03,119
worth it

1137
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:06,000
yeah it sounds tremendous on it and i

1138
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:08,400
just like that little bit of crispiness

1139
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:09,280
um

1140
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:12,000
and uh presence and i'm really enjoying

1141
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:13,839
this particular mic yeah there's uh

1142
00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:14,800
there's

1143
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:18,319
not too many mics that are better than

1144
00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:20,079
that microphone i mean really i mean

1145
00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:20,800
it's

1146
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:27,920
uh i like my mic but i'm a dynamic guy

1147
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:30,720
and there's uh every radio station i've

1148
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,160
ever worked in that's what they used

1149
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:34,240
were dynamic mics and there's a lot

1150
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:36,240
there's a lot of benefits to dynamic

1151
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:37,359
mics too

1152
00:49:41,349 --> 00:49:39,200
i mean it's like everything else they're

1153
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:41,359
trade-offs you know the compressor has

1154
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:44,160
some advantages dynamic has others yeah

1155
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:47,200
uh and and and for me i need a dynamic

1156
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:50,480
bike because i'm just too too dang loud

1157
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:53,040
you know and i just i just i

1158
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:55,440
i just overdrive and pop

1159
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:57,359
uh those really good microphones of

1160
00:50:02,710 --> 00:49:59,359
which i have you know i have them and i

1161
00:50:05,349 --> 00:50:02,720
try i just can't i can't do it and uh so

1162
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:05,359
anyway you sound great and that's why

1163
00:50:11,349 --> 00:50:08,400
you are the voice of the paranormal now

1164
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:11,359
the uh and i tease you about that but

1165
00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:14,000
there's also a way

1166
00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:15,040
to

1167
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:22,160
did and your technique in in telling a

1168
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:24,240
story or a tale

1169
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:25,359
um

1170
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:27,599
is it something that you worked on or

1171
00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:29,760
were you always able to

1172
00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:32,160
you know spin the yarn you know growing

1173
00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:33,680
up

1174
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:35,440
no i think i just tell the stories i

1175
00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:37,200
mean really on campfire it's the

1176
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:38,800
listeners who tell the stories i've just

1177
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,400
had the opportunity to be on a lot of

1178
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:42,720
shows like this one and coast and and

1179
00:50:48,150 --> 00:50:44,960
things and just have kind of learned by

1180
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:48,160
doing and i try to get across the spirit

1181
00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:49,520
of their stories now i personally

1182
00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:51,119
believe that no one can tell these

1183
00:50:55,829 --> 00:50:54,079
stories as well as the storytellers you

1184
00:50:58,309 --> 00:50:55,839
know to hear it from them hear the

1185
00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:58,319
intonation in their voice hear how they

1186
00:51:02,630 --> 00:51:00,400
feel i think that's really great but

1187
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:02,640
obviously when i go on shows like fade

1188
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:04,800
to black or coast or whatever it might

1189
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:05,680
be

1190
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:07,760
um i i can't bring all those people

1191
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:10,880
along with me so i try to

1192
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:12,880
be true to the spirit of their stories

1193
00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:14,559
and that's the other thing i don't and

1194
00:51:18,069 --> 00:51:16,559
this goes for the shows this goes for

1195
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:18,079
the books this goes when i come on a

1196
00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:20,240
show and retell a story i don't add

1197
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:21,680
stuff

1198
00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:24,480
you know the thing is it is what it is

1199
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:27,599
and uh you know sometimes the stories

1200
00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:29,520
are absolutely terrifying and some are

1201
00:51:34,549 --> 00:51:31,839
like oh that's interesting but i don't

1202
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:34,559
make the stuff up and i think that

1203
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:36,800
sincerity has kind of shown through for

1204
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:38,319
the years that's why the show has been

1205
00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:39,760
popular and

1206
00:51:43,990 --> 00:51:42,240
and uh you know it seems to keep going

1207
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:44,000
and going and going

1208
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:46,720
do you uh uh

1209
00:51:52,230 --> 00:51:49,040
with the paranormal uh the paranormal

1210
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:52,240
podcast do you edit

1211
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:54,800
or very little yeah or do you try to

1212
00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:57,520
capture the spirit of being live oh yeah

1213
00:52:02,230 --> 00:52:00,319
on a paranormal podcast i just i just

1214
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:02,240
made a funny pun

1215
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:04,640
that was pretty good

1216
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:06,960
now i just i basically do it like it's

1217
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:09,440
live to tape unless somebody's dog

1218
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:11,200
starts barking or they have to go get a

1219
00:52:13,510 --> 00:52:12,400
package or something i just said we're

1220
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:13,520
gonna have a conversation we're gonna

1221
00:52:18,150 --> 00:52:15,359
roll it just like it's live

1222
00:52:20,549 --> 00:52:18,160
uh because i know people want to edit

1223
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:20,559
out every little on and off and

1224
00:52:25,589 --> 00:52:22,400
obviously as a podcaster and a

1225
00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:25,599
broadcaster you try to minimize those

1226
00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:26,960
but

1227
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:30,000
i think you lose something when you try

1228
00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:32,640
to be letter perfect on an interview

1229
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:35,119
show because it is a conversation

1230
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:36,960
and you want to be articulate and

1231
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:39,680
hopefully concise and get to the point

1232
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:40,960
but

1233
00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:43,599
i don't think you have to be a robot so

1234
00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:45,839
i just basically all my interview shows

1235
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:48,079
where i interview people who ryan

1236
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:49,520
sprague for example you mentioned he's

1237
00:52:54,150 --> 00:52:51,680
been on the show many times

1238
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:54,160
people like that uh we just have a

1239
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:57,359
conversation and uh you know i drop in

1240
00:53:01,910 --> 00:53:00,160
spots and things after the fact but in

1241
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:01,920
terms of the conversation is is not

1242
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:03,599
edited now i might try to tweak the

1243
00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:05,359
sound a little bit and those kind of

1244
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:08,240
things uh but in terms of editing

1245
00:53:13,270 --> 00:53:10,640
content and editing out every little

1246
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:13,280
amino very very rarely

1247
00:53:17,349 --> 00:53:14,960
now um

1248
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:17,359
with the amount of

1249
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:18,559
shows

1250
00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:20,880
not only that you have done with a wide

1251
00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:23,839
range of subject matter

1252
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:27,359
do you have a favorite

1253
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:28,480
genre

1254
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:29,359
right

1255
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:31,440
what what is it that

1256
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:34,319
uh excites you is it is it ghost is it

1257
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:37,200
the afterlife is it ufos

1258
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:39,760
time travel you know whatever it may be

1259
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:41,040
it's tough because you're just like yeah

1260
00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:42,960
that one that one that one and that one

1261
00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:45,359
but really the one for me the biggest

1262
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:47,839
one is afterlife because

1263
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:49,760
if you think about it jimmy of all the

1264
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:51,680
things we talk about we might not all

1265
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:54,720
see a ufo we might not all see a ghost

1266
00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:56,720
we might not all see we won't see

1267
00:54:01,750 --> 00:53:59,680
bigfoot right some of us may

1268
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:01,760
but guess what i hate to be the one to

1269
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:03,440
break it to everybody but we're all

1270
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:04,559
going to

1271
00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:06,800
physically die at least

1272
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:09,839
and i think everybody wants to know

1273
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:11,760
what's next now people with great

1274
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:13,520
religious faith they believe they know

1275
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:15,040
what's coming next

1276
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:17,760
um i have some faith but

1277
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:19,680
not not enough to say i know where i'm

1278
00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:21,040
going

1279
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:23,280
so i guess what i'm saying is that to me

1280
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:25,839
is the ultimate mystery and

1281
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:28,240
oh by the way if you solve that mystery

1282
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:30,880
that'll probably clear up at least one

1283
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:32,800
or two more of those like ghosts if you

1284
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:34,960
know what the afterlife is

1285
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:36,720
then you probably have an idea what

1286
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:39,119
ghosts are so to me that's the ultimate

1287
00:54:43,349 --> 00:54:41,200
question a couple of months ago i did an

1288
00:54:44,870 --> 00:54:43,359
interview with before we moved probably

1289
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:44,880
back in april

1290
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:47,760
with dr bruce grayson he wrote a book

1291
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:50,160
called after and he talked about

1292
00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:52,079
afterlife and so forth and i love

1293
00:54:56,789 --> 00:54:54,240
interviews like this jimmy because

1294
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:56,799
the gentleman came from more of a

1295
00:55:01,750 --> 00:54:59,280
scientific and skeptical

1296
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:01,760
uh background when he started he wasn't

1297
00:55:05,829 --> 00:55:03,760
somebody who said oh you know i believe

1298
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:05,839
in all this stuff but through his

1299
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:09,119
experiences as a doctor

1300
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:11,599
and things that happened to him and

1301
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:14,000
other medical people

1302
00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:16,160
he has spoken with over the years came

1303
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:18,559
to the conclusion that there is an

1304
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:21,280
afterlife now what it is exactly he's

1305
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:23,040
not prepared to say

1306
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:24,000
uh

1307
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:26,640
being very honest but he is convinced

1308
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:29,839
that there is an afterlife to me that is

1309
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:31,440
so fascinating and i could talk to

1310
00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:34,319
somebody like that for hours on end yeah

1311
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:35,440
and

1312
00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:38,960
what have you what have you learned

1313
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,960
in that do you

1314
00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:42,640
do you believe that there is an

1315
00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:45,440
afterlife and and once you discuss this

1316
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:47,440
enough with enough people

1317
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:49,760
you start to develop your own opinions

1318
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:50,640
and

1319
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:52,960
on a wide range of things right

1320
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:55,599
uh so where are you with you know the

1321
00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:57,599
near-death experience

1322
00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:00,640
and uh what happens after we die

1323
00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:02,000
well i think you just kind of

1324
00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:04,400
encapsulated it and i would like to say

1325
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:06,480
that my belief in an afterlife is

1326
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:08,960
totally because of great faith

1327
00:56:12,789 --> 00:56:10,880
but to me

1328
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:12,799
it's more common sense

1329
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:14,960
in the sense that when you have multiple

1330
00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:17,920
people across the world reporting

1331
00:56:21,030 --> 00:56:19,359
these situations where they're in

1332
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:21,040
medical crisis

1333
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:23,440
they're in an emergency room on a table

1334
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:24,960
flatlining

1335
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:26,640
they're unconscious

1336
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:27,920
then they

1337
00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:29,200
come back

1338
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:31,119
and they describe well that person was

1339
00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:33,680
doing that to me and this person was

1340
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:35,520
doing that and they were wearing this

1341
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:38,000
and the doctor dropped a pen or dr

1342
00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:40,400
grayson's case oh you had a spaghetti

1343
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:42,400
stain on your shirt

1344
00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:45,040
uh on his tie from lunch to earlier that

1345
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:47,200
day when people

1346
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:49,760
repeatedly are able to bring back those

1347
00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:52,319
kind of details after they are quote

1348
00:56:57,670 --> 00:56:55,599
dead for a while certainly unconscious

1349
00:56:59,829 --> 00:56:57,680
and they see typically these details

1350
00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:59,839
from floating above

1351
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:01,520
the medical staff

1352
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:03,440
and when that happens time and time and

1353
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:04,640
time again

1354
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:06,480
and people report the same kinds of

1355
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:07,440
things

1356
00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:08,640
i say

1357
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:10,880
common sense tells me there's something

1358
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:13,359
to it and there is an afterlife and they

1359
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:15,280
are going somewhere and something is

1360
00:57:19,510 --> 00:57:18,559
happening that we cannot explain under

1361
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:19,520
current

1362
00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:21,440
science because i know the skeptics want

1363
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:24,720
to say about ndes what they want to say

1364
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:28,400
is that oh that is a dying brain your

1365
00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:31,200
brain is releasing dopamine uh you're

1366
00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:34,400
seeing uh the the tunnel and and also

1367
00:57:39,910 --> 00:57:37,920
people who are in uh astronaut training

1368
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:39,920
in the vomit comet see that when they're

1369
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:42,079
ready to pass out stuff like that

1370
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:44,480
but how do you explain that person who

1371
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:46,880
is on the operating table they've

1372
00:57:50,710 --> 00:57:48,880
technically died

1373
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:50,720
they float above their body they give

1374
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:52,240
all these details they come back and

1375
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:54,000
tell the details and this is not one

1376
00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:56,240
time this is not two times this is many

1377
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:59,359
many times so to me it proves

1378
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:01,040
that something happens there is some

1379
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:03,839
kind of afterlife and also

1380
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:07,359
uh the continuation

1381
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:10,000
of or the the the

1382
00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:12,000
the consistency

1383
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:14,240
of people who come back and they

1384
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:16,640
dramatically change their lives

1385
00:58:20,309 --> 00:58:18,480
because of things that they learned on

1386
00:58:22,069 --> 00:58:20,319
the other side

1387
00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:22,079
i just think there's too many common

1388
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:24,079
experiences to explain in a way i think

1389
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:25,280
it's real

1390
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:27,520
and uh when we come back after the break

1391
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:30,720
uh we've got about uh 60 seconds or so

1392
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:33,280
the other part of that which everything

1393
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is tied together of course but

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the the question of consciousness

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and and what it is or what it is not

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is something that is probably just as

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big

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of a question

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uh as life in the universe or what

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happens after we die you know what what

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is consciousness and how come you and i

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00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:58,000
can have this conversation right now and

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00:59:00,870 --> 00:58:59,520
laugh at each other that just doesn't

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make any sense

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so

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what what what do you think uh makes up

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consciousness and

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does it go with us when we die or does

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it continue

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i think jimmy very simply we have a soul

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and it does continue on

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that's it

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that's about the best answer you can

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have

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what you know when i hear jim when i

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00:59:27,829 --> 00:59:25,520
hear physicists

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00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:27,839
uh and scientists say well you know uh

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consciousness is just a chemical

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reaction that's all it is it's just part

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of matter and it's part of particles and

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and uh when when your body shuts down it

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consciousness shuts down and that's it

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it doesn't go anywhere and that to me is

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is is a bailout right

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it's their fear of trying to answer

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questions that they can't

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i agree i agree and i respect science

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00:59:57,750 --> 00:59:55,920
but it is a cop-out and after we come

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back i want to talk to you a little bit

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about consciousness well there's

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something that i'd like to share i will

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uh i'll make a note our guest tonight

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jim harold

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the paranormal podcast this is going to

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be a great conversation another great

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night with jim

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i am your host

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jimmy church this is fade to black and

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the game changer network and kg r a the

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planet you can follow me on twitter

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right now at j church radio we've got

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jim's tweets and twitter up there too as

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well in the feed we'll be right back

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on the game changer radio network and

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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01:05:59,029 --> 01:05:57,599
host jimmy church tonight jim harold is

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here

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01:06:03,190 --> 01:06:00,799
tomorrow night

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01:06:04,950 --> 01:06:03,200
it is daryl anka

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talking about his new film he wrote it

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01:06:09,029 --> 01:06:06,880
and directed it it's called alienated

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01:06:10,630 --> 01:06:09,039
and then thursday night ryan sprague

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01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:10,640
we're going to make another attempt at a

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01:06:15,190 --> 01:06:12,640
conversation about ufos and that'll be

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01:06:17,589 --> 01:06:15,200
thursday night no fader night but we are

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going to give away uh two tickets to the

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pasadena film festival

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uh where our film is doing its world

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premiere

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on saturday september 11th so we're

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going to give away two tickets to that

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on thursday night with ryan so uh stay

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tuned and and get ready for that if

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you're in the los angeles area

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come and hang out with us over at the

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pasadena film festival all right our

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guest tonight uh jim harold jim your

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video's down yeah i don't know what's up

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with that

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[Laughter]

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when you have all this fancy equipment

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01:06:54,549 --> 01:06:52,400
and stuff it's like uh oh something

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01:06:56,470 --> 01:06:54,559
happened so as long as you can hear me

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01:06:58,470 --> 01:06:56,480
uh we're in good shape okay well it's

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you're the voice man that's all we know

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that's right now i've got to convey all

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my meaning to my man theater of the mind

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being painted

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right van gogh

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doesn't work but the theater the mind

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sounds better yeah absolutely well you

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know what see but that's the thing i

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01:07:17,589 --> 01:07:14,960
think uh part of the

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the reason for uh all of the success of

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podcast out there

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is uh when you go back to

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you know of course you know art bell

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you've you've got to mention that but

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all of the other great uh late night

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radio shows going back to the beginning

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of radio

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was about painting that picture and and

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creating an image and that's what i

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always got

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uh from late night talk radio and i

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wanted to do the same thing here

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on fade to black and that's that's i

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think that's why podcast

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and certainly the great podcast

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are are so good at what they do because

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they allow people to just

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learn and to imagine and maybe even go

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and do some research and

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and things after they listen to the

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podcast and i think that is

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a direct result of what radio well

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continues to be but what great radio in

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the past was

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yeah i think i mean some people will say

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well it's a totally different medium and

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it's like i don't know

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good radio makes good podcasts i mean

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they're their differences you know the

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live element uh call-ins are tougher to

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01:08:30,390 --> 01:08:26,719
do on podcasts though we do it with

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campfire but the thing is is that um art

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bell in his heyday would have been a

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tremendous podcaster he would have been

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01:08:38,630 --> 01:08:36,319
blowing the doors off of me that's for

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sure and i mean if you go back to your

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point the art was great but before that

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larry king was led people remember larry

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king from cnn but didn't know he was a

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late night host for years and was

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tremendous at it i actually preferred

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his late night shows

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then gene shepherd of

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01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:55,040
a christmas story

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01:09:00,229 --> 01:08:58,080
fame who was on wor for years or long

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john nebel

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01:09:06,470 --> 01:09:02,159
you know some of these names so there's

1632
01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:06,480
such a rich tradition of talk radio and

1633
01:09:10,630 --> 01:09:09,679
to be able to continue in my little tiny

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01:09:13,749 --> 01:09:10,640
way

1635
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:13,759
um a little bit of that legacy is just a

1636
01:09:18,070 --> 01:09:15,839
really a hoot because i'm kind of a

1637
01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:18,080
broadcasting nerd going back from when i

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01:09:22,950 --> 01:09:19,520
was a little kid

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01:09:24,789 --> 01:09:22,960
so i love it yeah i go back i i i do

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01:09:26,870 --> 01:09:24,799
this today

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01:09:27,990 --> 01:09:26,880
i go back and listen to long john

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01:09:29,349 --> 01:09:28,000
neville

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01:09:30,390 --> 01:09:29,359
and

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01:09:35,189 --> 01:09:30,400
you know

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01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:35,199
but how it should be done

1646
01:09:40,149 --> 01:09:38,640
man and wor can you imagine

1647
01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:40,159
the power

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01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:43,279
living back then and just tuning in

1649
01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:44,640
um and

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01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:47,359
uh you know long john and a lot of those

1651
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:49,440
cats out of the east coast

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01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:51,120
those guys were doing

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01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:54,560
35 40 million people a night

1654
01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:56,480
yeah because of those sky waves and

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01:10:00,310 --> 01:09:58,719
bouncing i mean it's they had their own

1656
01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:00,320
internet right

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01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:03,920
um just uh just amazing and just amazing

1658
01:10:09,510 --> 01:10:06,640
and the thing was is that in my radio

1659
01:10:11,110 --> 01:10:09,520
gigs i got to work around uh i'm in

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01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:11,120
cleveland so it's a major market it's

1661
01:10:15,590 --> 01:10:13,440
not new york but a major market i got to

1662
01:10:17,990 --> 01:10:15,600
work around people who had been

1663
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:18,000
in broadcasting in the well actually

1664
01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:20,080
some of them in the 30s and 40s when i

1665
01:10:23,990 --> 01:10:22,000
first started and then the 50s and the

1666
01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:24,000
60s and these top

1667
01:10:27,910 --> 01:10:26,000
40 jocks i got to work with them in

1668
01:10:30,149 --> 01:10:27,920
later years or there was this one

1669
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:30,159
newsman who was in cleveland was like

1670
01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:32,560
legendary i got to work with him and ask

1671
01:10:37,590 --> 01:10:34,880
him his thoughts on the news every day

1672
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:37,600
for a few years and uh and he would

1673
01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:40,320
always give me some great insight

1674
01:10:45,990 --> 01:10:42,880
but just to be around those broadcasters

1675
01:10:47,669 --> 01:10:46,000
was such a hoot and just to kind of and

1676
01:10:49,030 --> 01:10:47,679
i and the fun thing was is you were

1677
01:10:51,750 --> 01:10:49,040
asked about the technical part of it

1678
01:10:53,910 --> 01:10:51,760
when i worked in ad sales i'd gone to

1679
01:10:55,830 --> 01:10:53,920
school for broadcasting so this is kind

1680
01:10:57,830 --> 01:10:55,840
of what i wanted to do

1681
01:11:00,229 --> 01:10:57,840
but like so many people i ended up you

1682
01:11:02,229 --> 01:11:00,239
know on the business side but i always

1683
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,239
watched how everything in the radio

1684
01:11:05,990 --> 01:11:04,560
station was done the traffic the

1685
01:11:07,830 --> 01:11:06,000
engineering

1686
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:07,840
the the billing

1687
01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:11,199
uh promotions i watched every aspect of

1688
01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:13,120
the radio station and i never understood

1689
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:14,480
why because like jim why are you worried

1690
01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:16,159
about this stuff go sell another ad

1691
01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:18,000
which i tried to do to the best of my

1692
01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:20,080
ability but i was always fascinated by

1693
01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:21,600
it and i realized

1694
01:11:24,790 --> 01:11:23,199
and this is why sometimes i think things

1695
01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:24,800
are meant to be

1696
01:11:29,910 --> 01:11:27,280
i was being trained for something that

1697
01:11:33,669 --> 01:11:29,920
didn't even exist

1698
01:11:36,310 --> 01:11:33,679
and i essentially now run a small radio

1699
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:36,320
station it's time shifted

1700
01:11:41,669 --> 01:11:39,120
but essentially i run a small radio

1701
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:41,679
station i sell ads i traffic ads i build

1702
01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:43,440
ads i

1703
01:11:47,110 --> 01:11:45,040
i do the the

1704
01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:47,120
i have a virtual assistant who is great

1705
01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:49,280
uh associate producer she does a great

1706
01:11:53,669 --> 01:11:51,120
job booking guests and things but then i

1707
01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:53,679
do the on-air i do almost every aspect

1708
01:11:58,470 --> 01:11:56,400
that you would do in a radio station and

1709
01:12:01,430 --> 01:11:58,480
i basically trained myself all those

1710
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:01,440
years watching those other people do it

1711
01:12:06,149 --> 01:12:03,120
the uh

1712
01:12:09,110 --> 01:12:06,159
the other part that you're absolutely

1713
01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:09,120
right with which most people that get

1714
01:12:14,950 --> 01:12:11,360
into podcasting today

1715
01:12:18,070 --> 01:12:14,960
they think that it is

1716
01:12:21,830 --> 01:12:18,080
turning on a microphone and and speaking

1717
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:21,840
and the whole other side of it if if you

1718
01:12:26,070 --> 01:12:23,920
want to monetize it in the business

1719
01:12:28,390 --> 01:12:26,080
aspect of it you need to get your feet

1720
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:28,400
wet and get your feet wet really quick

1721
01:12:32,149 --> 01:12:30,000
and understand

1722
01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:32,159
everything that is involved because

1723
01:12:35,510 --> 01:12:34,000
you're absolutely right

1724
01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:35,520
i run

1725
01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:38,480
a radio station right it's it's it's no

1726
01:12:42,790 --> 01:12:39,679
mystery

1727
01:12:45,590 --> 01:12:42,800
i do everything here that i did over at

1728
01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:45,600
coast i do everything here that premiere

1729
01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:46,560
does

1730
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:48,640
i have uh the syndication i have

1731
01:12:52,229 --> 01:12:50,400
advertisers i've got to do the

1732
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:52,239
production i've got to do the traffic i

1733
01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:53,679
got to book the guest

1734
01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:54,960
um

1735
01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:57,280
there's all of the technical aspects of

1736
01:13:00,709 --> 01:12:59,600
this to get a show on the air

1737
01:13:02,830 --> 01:13:00,719
and and

1738
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:02,840
and what that involves and all of that

1739
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:05,760
logistics and this isn't any different

1740
01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:06,640
here

1741
01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:08,480
than any other radio station in the

1742
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:10,880
country it's exactly the same it runs

1743
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:12,239
the same

1744
01:13:16,070 --> 01:13:13,760
yeah it does

1745
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:16,080
it does it's like

1746
01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:18,480
i'm amazed and and to me it's the cool

1747
01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:20,400
factor it's like i get to do this i get

1748
01:13:24,470 --> 01:13:22,800
because i remember as a kid jimmy i

1749
01:13:26,550 --> 01:13:24,480
remember one christmas i didn't get it

1750
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:26,560
they actually got me a nicer quote

1751
01:13:30,790 --> 01:13:28,239
record player that kind of dates me when

1752
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:30,800
we call it a record player but i wanted

1753
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:33,120
this little dj setup

1754
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:36,480
and uh every time i get a box from b h

1755
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:39,600
or amazon and i've got a nice new uh

1756
01:13:43,350 --> 01:13:41,280
piece of equipment or microphone it's

1757
01:13:45,270 --> 01:13:43,360
like i must be compensating for the fact

1758
01:13:47,350 --> 01:13:45,280
i didn't get that for christmas that dj

1759
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:47,360
set up because now

1760
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:50,239
now i have the the big boys uh version

1761
01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:53,040
of that and uh but it's it's so much fun

1762
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:54,960
and i'm so grateful and it's so neat to

1763
01:13:59,350 --> 01:13:56,640
be able to do it

1764
01:14:01,350 --> 01:13:59,360
and talk about taking it back to the

1765
01:14:03,510 --> 01:14:01,360
supernatural

1766
01:14:06,229 --> 01:14:03,520
to do it and do it about something i'm

1767
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:06,239
so interested in that's really the the

1768
01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:09,280
the icing on top i get to do what i love

1769
01:14:13,750 --> 01:14:11,440
but i also get to talk about things i'm

1770
01:14:15,030 --> 01:14:13,760
really interested in yeah i i'm

1771
01:14:16,310 --> 01:14:15,040
interested in all that business stuff

1772
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:16,320
and i'm interested in the technical

1773
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:18,320
stuff but the end of the day i'm

1774
01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:20,719
interested in the content as much as any

1775
01:14:25,270 --> 01:14:23,520
of my listeners and that is a real

1776
01:14:27,750 --> 01:14:25,280
blessing you know because there's plenty

1777
01:14:28,870 --> 01:14:27,760
people in radio who you know they might

1778
01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:28,880
be a

1779
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:31,600
a top 40 jock but they they can't stand

1780
01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:34,480
current music right but i get to play

1781
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:36,719
the hits i get to play the hits that i'm

1782
01:14:42,149 --> 01:14:39,360
interested in which are these subjects

1783
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:42,159
going back to consciousness yes and and

1784
01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:45,040
and a great segue jim that's because

1785
01:14:49,750 --> 01:14:46,800
you're a professional

1786
01:14:51,910 --> 01:14:49,760
the consciousness side of this when you

1787
01:14:52,790 --> 01:14:51,920
find your bliss

1788
01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:52,800
right

1789
01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:55,679
life becomes easier because your body

1790
01:15:00,870 --> 01:14:57,440
and your consciousness

1791
01:15:04,390 --> 01:15:00,880
is not fighting the true happiness that

1792
01:15:06,630 --> 01:15:04,400
it desires right oh yeah

1793
01:15:09,430 --> 01:15:06,640
that's exactly what we're talking about

1794
01:15:11,430 --> 01:15:09,440
i can tell you that there have been jobs

1795
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:11,440
that i hated

1796
01:15:18,229 --> 01:15:14,880
and i was capable of doing them i was

1797
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:18,239
capable of doing what needed to be done

1798
01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:20,880
but there was always a resistance

1799
01:15:26,550 --> 01:15:23,600
but with this there is a flow i'm going

1800
01:15:28,550 --> 01:15:26,560
with the flow and and that ties back to

1801
01:15:30,630 --> 01:15:28,560
consciousness and what you're meant to

1802
01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:30,640
be in those things but but you were

1803
01:15:33,510 --> 01:15:32,560
talking earlier in the break before the

1804
01:15:36,709 --> 01:15:33,520
break

1805
01:15:38,709 --> 01:15:36,719
about the idea of this materialist

1806
01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:38,719
view of the mind you know it's just a

1807
01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:41,440
bunch of chemicals and some gray matter

1808
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:44,800
and i kind of use the comparison um

1809
01:15:48,149 --> 01:15:46,640
and i used it and then i talked to a

1810
01:15:49,750 --> 01:15:48,159
gentleman i'll share his name and so

1811
01:15:51,830 --> 01:15:49,760
forth in a moment but

1812
01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:51,840
i kind of look at when i got my first

1813
01:15:58,950 --> 01:15:55,199
computer like in 1990 that's that that

1814
01:16:01,270 --> 01:15:58,960
dates me but 1990 basically

1815
01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:01,280
you know it was a unit and it came with

1816
01:16:05,350 --> 01:16:03,520
some disks and then i could buy more

1817
01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:05,360
disks or whatever

1818
01:16:10,630 --> 01:16:08,000
and put on that machine but that machine

1819
01:16:12,229 --> 01:16:10,640
the whole contents of that machine and

1820
01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:12,239
everything that it did

1821
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:14,000
was just there i think that's kind of

1822
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:15,920
like the materialism

1823
01:16:21,430 --> 01:16:18,560
view of the brain you know or the

1824
01:16:22,709 --> 01:16:21,440
consciousness it's just self-contained

1825
01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:22,719
whereas

1826
01:16:27,990 --> 01:16:25,760
a couple years later i hooked in a modem

1827
01:16:30,470 --> 01:16:28,000
and it went out to the world

1828
01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:30,480
and it was tied in so yeah there is the

1829
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:32,159
physical component

1830
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:35,040
but teriya simonsen uh dr theresa

1831
01:16:39,590 --> 01:16:37,840
simonson uh did a book uh

1832
01:16:41,350 --> 01:16:39,600
i'll have to look up the the name of it

1833
01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:41,360
but basically uh the theory of the

1834
01:16:46,149 --> 01:16:42,880
paranormal

1835
01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:46,159
and he talked about uh kind of a

1836
01:16:50,709 --> 01:16:48,080
consciousness internet the psychic

1837
01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:50,719
internet that we're all interconnected

1838
01:16:55,110 --> 01:16:52,640
and i think that computer is the good

1839
01:16:57,110 --> 01:16:55,120
analogy you know i think the scientists

1840
01:17:00,149 --> 01:16:57,120
many of them are stuck into that view

1841
01:17:02,790 --> 01:17:00,159
that it's that old 1990 computer that

1842
01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:02,800
just had the the loaded software which

1843
01:17:06,790 --> 01:17:04,560
you could put on with a disc

1844
01:17:09,669 --> 01:17:06,800
uh whereas really what we're looking at

1845
01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:09,679
is an internet connected computer and

1846
01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:12,080
we're all kind of

1847
01:17:16,470 --> 01:17:14,560
connected to this

1848
01:17:19,430 --> 01:17:16,480
information super highway

1849
01:17:21,910 --> 01:17:19,440
as it were uh and um

1850
01:17:23,030 --> 01:17:21,920
i i think that's that's the truth that's

1851
01:17:25,110 --> 01:17:23,040
why

1852
01:17:27,430 --> 01:17:25,120
twins one could be in new york the other

1853
01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:27,440
can be in california one

1854
01:17:31,669 --> 01:17:29,280
hurts themselves the other one feels the

1855
01:17:34,070 --> 01:17:31,679
pain that's why a mother uh this

1856
01:17:35,750 --> 01:17:34,080
happened with my grandmother

1857
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:35,760
told my uh

1858
01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:38,080
my mom that

1859
01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:41,440
her son was going to come home either

1860
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:43,520
hurt or he was going to be killed later

1861
01:17:48,310 --> 01:17:45,840
that day he broke his pelvis at work i

1862
01:17:49,990 --> 01:17:48,320
mean that's how we tap into these things

1863
01:17:52,470 --> 01:17:50,000
or maybe that's how

1864
01:17:54,709 --> 01:17:52,480
you know the beatles write a hit song in

1865
01:17:57,910 --> 01:17:54,719
15 minutes they're tapping into

1866
01:18:00,550 --> 01:17:57,920
something greater um i i think we're all

1867
01:18:02,630 --> 01:18:00,560
tapping into something greater and this

1868
01:18:07,350 --> 01:18:02,640
consciousness is what we're tapping into

1869
01:18:10,950 --> 01:18:07,360
well and and to your point if we

1870
01:18:13,750 --> 01:18:10,960
give a little credit and credence to

1871
01:18:15,590 --> 01:18:13,760
the physicist side of

1872
01:18:17,510 --> 01:18:15,600
their explanation or attempted

1873
01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:17,520
explanation of what consciousness is

1874
01:18:21,030 --> 01:18:18,640
that there's a little piece of

1875
01:18:23,590 --> 01:18:21,040
consciousness in in every particle of

1876
01:18:26,390 --> 01:18:23,600
matter you amass a bunch of it together

1877
01:18:28,709 --> 01:18:26,400
and boom you've got consciousness

1878
01:18:29,669 --> 01:18:28,719
uh you know that's what makes up you

1879
01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:29,679
know the

1880
01:18:35,430 --> 01:18:33,760
five pounds of of gray muck in our heads

1881
01:18:37,110 --> 01:18:35,440
it's a concentration of all of this

1882
01:18:38,070 --> 01:18:37,120
matter well okay

1883
01:18:40,709 --> 01:18:38,080
um

1884
01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:40,719
but if we take that a step further as if

1885
01:18:45,430 --> 01:18:42,880
i'm understanding you correctly

1886
01:18:47,270 --> 01:18:45,440
and you have the internet the connected

1887
01:18:50,790 --> 01:18:47,280
world of things

1888
01:18:53,910 --> 01:18:50,800
with us as sentient beings at the

1889
01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:53,920
keyboard focusing on the internet

1890
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:57,840
suddenly uh the internet uh

1891
01:19:02,790 --> 01:18:58,640
uh

1892
01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:02,800
becomes a more animate conscious

1893
01:19:07,669 --> 01:19:04,159
life force

1894
01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:07,679
right and and if if that's the case

1895
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:09,199
do you think that

1896
01:19:14,390 --> 01:19:11,840
those server farms

1897
01:19:17,510 --> 01:19:14,400
will become self-aware you know the

1898
01:19:21,590 --> 01:19:17,520
collection of this consciousness where

1899
01:19:25,030 --> 01:19:21,600
now it's not only an extension of uh us

1900
01:19:28,229 --> 01:19:25,040
but it becomes its own being its own

1901
01:19:30,950 --> 01:19:28,239
sentient life form

1902
01:19:32,630 --> 01:19:30,960
i i don't know about that

1903
01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:32,640
um

1904
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:34,719
in other words the consciousness itself

1905
01:19:39,590 --> 01:19:36,800
becomes a larger life form maybe that's

1906
01:19:42,790 --> 01:19:39,600
possible the thing is is that jimmy

1907
01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:42,800
my feeling about reality is this picture

1908
01:19:47,669 --> 01:19:45,679
that you're in this old mansion that has

1909
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:47,679
a library you know the library with the

1910
01:19:52,790 --> 01:19:50,960
leather bound bookcases on the walls and

1911
01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:52,800
the door is closed

1912
01:19:57,830 --> 01:19:55,120
and there is an old time lock like when

1913
01:19:59,590 --> 01:19:57,840
you would put a skeleton key into

1914
01:20:01,350 --> 01:19:59,600
and the door is locked you don't have a

1915
01:20:02,550 --> 01:20:01,360
key but you're going to peek through the

1916
01:20:05,990 --> 01:20:02,560
keyhole

1917
01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:06,000
and you are going to see

1918
01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:07,840
uh a little bit of those leather bound

1919
01:20:11,990 --> 01:20:09,440
volumes but you'll just be able to see a

1920
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:12,000
few just that little tiny crack through

1921
01:20:16,149 --> 01:20:14,159
the keyhole you see a little bit

1922
01:20:18,149 --> 01:20:16,159
i think we are the people

1923
01:20:21,189 --> 01:20:18,159
outside the door looking through the

1924
01:20:23,669 --> 01:20:21,199
keyhole and not only do we not see the

1925
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:23,679
individual books

1926
01:20:28,470 --> 01:20:27,600
we don't see the pages on the books

1927
01:20:31,750 --> 01:20:28,480
right

1928
01:20:34,390 --> 01:20:31,760
so we are seeing such a small slice of

1929
01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:34,400
reality it kind of goes back to plato

1930
01:20:39,990 --> 01:20:37,760
and the allegory of the cave so i i mean

1931
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:40,000
my point being

1932
01:20:44,709 --> 01:20:42,560
that reality and and i think you know i

1933
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i have this fantasy

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01:20:48,709 --> 01:20:46,560
uh jimmy that that

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01:20:51,510 --> 01:20:48,719
300 years from now somebody is going to

1936
01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:51,520
tune on one of my shows finding a disc

1937
01:20:56,629 --> 01:20:54,320
of mp3 somewhere and says well let's

1938
01:20:57,350 --> 01:20:56,639
listen to this antiquated guy

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01:20:58,629 --> 01:20:57,360
and

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maybe they'll hear this very

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01:21:02,390 --> 01:21:00,719
conversation and i'll say you know these

1942
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:02,400
guys were on to something they they

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01:21:06,550 --> 01:21:04,800
weren't they didn't have it quite right

1944
01:21:09,430 --> 01:21:06,560
but they were on to something they

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01:21:11,110 --> 01:21:09,440
realized that reality was much

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01:21:11,990 --> 01:21:11,120
larger

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01:21:13,990 --> 01:21:12,000
than

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01:21:16,470 --> 01:21:14,000
the science and the people of their time

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01:21:18,390 --> 01:21:16,480
could understand so they're to be given

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01:21:20,709 --> 01:21:18,400
credit

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01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:20,719
that they understood now they didn't

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01:21:24,390 --> 01:21:22,320
really know what they were talking about

1953
01:21:26,830 --> 01:21:24,400
they had some kind of wild out there

1954
01:21:30,550 --> 01:21:26,840
theories that were nowhere near close to

1955
01:21:33,590 --> 01:21:30,560
true but they in general they got it

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01:21:34,629 --> 01:21:33,600
that they didn't get it

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01:21:40,950 --> 01:21:34,639
there

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01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:40,960
uh jim and that is

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01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:42,400
if

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consciousness

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01:21:48,149 --> 01:21:45,280
is

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separate from us

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01:21:54,229 --> 01:21:50,960
right we're not tied together right

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01:21:57,590 --> 01:21:54,239
if if that's the case then isn't

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01:22:01,990 --> 01:21:57,600
everything that way is the universe that

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01:22:03,189 --> 01:22:02,000
way is is everything

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01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:03,199
connected

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01:22:08,229 --> 01:22:05,760
and i'm i'm talking about in a very

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01:22:10,470 --> 01:22:08,239
broad stroke of the pen

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01:22:12,990 --> 01:22:10,480
where the communication or life after

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01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:13,000
death or time travel uh

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01:22:17,270 --> 01:22:15,120
interdimensionality uh

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01:22:20,709 --> 01:22:17,280
multiple dimensions and

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01:22:22,310 --> 01:22:20,719
and peering into maybe the afterlife or

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01:22:25,590 --> 01:22:22,320
spirits or

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01:22:28,550 --> 01:22:25,600
channeling or communication with et's

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01:22:31,270 --> 01:22:28,560
you know is is is all of this just the

1978
01:22:35,590 --> 01:22:33,669
it could be from the standpoint of when

1979
01:22:37,750 --> 01:22:35,600
i used to think i don't know how you

1980
01:22:42,629 --> 01:22:37,760
feel about this but when i used to think

1981
01:22:44,709 --> 01:22:42,639
about bigfoot ghosts ufos afterlife

1982
01:22:46,709 --> 01:22:44,719
whatever the case may be

1983
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:46,719
these different categories very much i

1984
01:22:50,709 --> 01:22:48,639
always go back to

1985
01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:50,719
in search of as my north star starting

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01:22:55,510 --> 01:22:53,280
this out as a little kid

1987
01:22:57,350 --> 01:22:55,520
everything was siloed

1988
01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:57,360
more and more people i talked to

1989
01:23:00,790 --> 01:22:59,120
researchers who have been doing this for

1990
01:23:03,510 --> 01:23:00,800
a while i remember talking to the late

1991
01:23:06,629 --> 01:23:03,520
great brad steiger and and he he brought

1992
01:23:09,189 --> 01:23:06,639
this up that it seems like these things

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01:23:10,070 --> 01:23:09,199
are connected

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01:23:11,430 --> 01:23:10,080
so

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01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:11,440
you know

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01:23:15,030 --> 01:23:13,520
i i don't know if aliens and ghosts are

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01:23:16,390 --> 01:23:15,040
connected but i know

1998
01:23:18,790 --> 01:23:16,400
for example if you look at the work of

1999
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:18,800
somebody like stan gordon who does work

2000
01:23:25,189 --> 01:23:21,440
on bigfoot in the pennsylvania area

2001
01:23:28,950 --> 01:23:25,199
and uh he finds that uh there's a

2002
01:23:31,270 --> 01:23:28,960
greater incident of ufo activity

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01:23:32,870 --> 01:23:31,280
you know i you know i don't know i i

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01:23:34,709 --> 01:23:32,880
mean i always hate to say this but i

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01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:34,719
don't know but i know that there's

2006
01:23:39,750 --> 01:23:36,719
enough going on to think that there is

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01:23:41,430 --> 01:23:39,760
probably some connection now uh

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01:23:45,350 --> 01:23:41,440
see this is how

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01:23:46,709 --> 01:23:45,360
easy it is to segway with these segments

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01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:46,719
because

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01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:48,800
when it comes to

2012
01:23:53,750 --> 01:23:51,760
uh whether it's ufos or bigfoot or ghost

2013
01:23:56,910 --> 01:23:53,760
right it's crazy as

2014
01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:56,920
those may be segmented and separated and

2015
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:59,280
compartmentalized and and things

2016
01:24:04,229 --> 01:24:00,960
but

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01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:04,239
you think about you're out with friends

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01:24:08,149 --> 01:24:06,159
and you

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01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:08,159
start talking about bigfoot

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01:24:13,030 --> 01:24:09,040
and

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01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:13,040
themselves well it'd be really cool if

2022
01:24:17,110 --> 01:24:15,520
we saw one and then next thing you know

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01:24:19,110 --> 01:24:17,120
yeah right

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01:24:22,470 --> 01:24:19,120
that's that's that's that's

2025
01:24:25,270 --> 01:24:22,480
consciousness uh communicating to

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01:24:26,950 --> 01:24:25,280
something else that you can't even see

2027
01:24:29,510 --> 01:24:26,960
but it happens and it's a sense of

2028
01:24:31,910 --> 01:24:29,520
calling in ufos at night right

2029
01:24:34,229 --> 01:24:31,920
it's it's it's a bizarre situation and

2030
01:24:37,270 --> 01:24:34,239
there's i think science really needs to

2031
01:24:39,910 --> 01:24:37,280
take a hard look at what is going on

2032
01:24:43,830 --> 01:24:39,920
well when you talk about that you talk

2033
01:24:45,430 --> 01:24:43,840
about thought forms you talk about

2034
01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:45,440
and i think we talked about this last

2035
01:24:49,430 --> 01:24:47,840
time that's one of the most fascinating

2036
01:24:51,910 --> 01:24:49,440
things i've ever heard about david

2037
01:24:53,669 --> 01:24:51,920
weatherly has done a ton of work on that

2038
01:24:55,750 --> 01:24:53,679
and has given out some of the best

2039
01:24:58,390 --> 01:24:55,760
information i've heard on it

2040
01:25:00,310 --> 01:24:58,400
and i don't remember the the story in

2041
01:25:02,950 --> 01:25:00,320
great detail but there was something

2042
01:25:04,709 --> 01:25:02,960
about a tibetan monk

2043
01:25:07,350 --> 01:25:04,719
and they had

2044
01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:07,360
experimented and tried to think up a

2045
01:25:13,030 --> 01:25:08,719
person

2046
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:13,040
uh

2047
01:25:18,070 --> 01:25:14,960
in real life

2048
01:25:20,629 --> 01:25:18,080
so the thing is is that uh you know when

2049
01:25:23,030 --> 01:25:20,639
you look at some of these internet memes

2050
01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:25,030
black eye kids guess

2051
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:27,120
keep going is it because is it because

2052
01:25:30,950 --> 01:25:28,960
they just show up or is it because

2053
01:25:33,430 --> 01:25:30,960
people are thinking about them i don't

2054
01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:33,440
know slenderman

2055
01:25:38,149 --> 01:25:35,840
right slenderman right there yeah

2056
01:25:40,149 --> 01:25:38,159
now we were just talking about

2057
01:25:41,270 --> 01:25:40,159
uh

2058
01:25:43,030 --> 01:25:41,280
you know the internet and the

2059
01:25:43,910 --> 01:25:43,040
consciousness and the internet of things

2060
01:25:46,629 --> 01:25:43,920
and

2061
01:25:48,870 --> 01:25:46,639
slenderman let me tell you something jim

2062
01:25:51,189 --> 01:25:48,880
and you had a lot to do with this too as

2063
01:25:52,950 --> 01:25:51,199
well so you're you're kind of guilty at

2064
01:25:55,110 --> 01:25:52,960
least with me personally

2065
01:25:56,790 --> 01:25:55,120
that slender man

2066
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:56,800
fascinated me

2067
01:26:01,270 --> 01:25:59,520
and i went down a slender i couldn't

2068
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:01,280
listen to enough of

2069
01:26:08,310 --> 01:26:05,040
uh creepypasta or stories or things and

2070
01:26:10,790 --> 01:26:08,320
and reports and the books and uh uh

2071
01:26:13,030 --> 01:26:10,800
grand theft auto if you got to a certain

2072
01:26:15,350 --> 01:26:13,040
level i went and played grand theft auto

2073
01:26:18,149 --> 01:26:15,360
and got chased by slenderman for like a

2074
01:26:20,149 --> 01:26:18,159
day and a half right i don't need do you

2075
01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:20,159
know about that

2076
01:26:26,629 --> 01:26:22,960
slender man was in grand theft auto i

2077
01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:26,639
did not chase me chased me uh into this

2078
01:26:31,990 --> 01:26:27,840
cabin

2079
01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:32,000
and i i get the door locked and he's

2080
01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:33,600
looking in all the window dudes just

2081
01:26:38,229 --> 01:26:37,280
freaked me out man anyway my point being

2082
01:26:41,110 --> 01:26:38,239
you

2083
01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:41,120
tulpa this right into reality

2084
01:26:44,629 --> 01:26:42,719
right and and

2085
01:26:46,550 --> 01:26:44,639
tulpa being more like

2086
01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:46,560
manifesting of a friend or a dead you

2087
01:26:52,070 --> 01:26:49,360
know okay all right or

2088
01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:52,080
it could uh black-eyed children could be

2089
01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:56,560
a a tulpa i i suppose but um uh

2090
01:27:01,110 --> 01:26:58,800
slenderman i think is a great example of

2091
01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:01,120
that oh yeah yeah

2092
01:27:06,629 --> 01:27:03,360
yeah it's um

2093
01:27:07,690 --> 01:27:06,639
again i go back to the library and the

2094
01:27:10,470 --> 01:27:07,700
keyhole

2095
01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:10,480
[Laughter]

2096
01:27:14,229 --> 01:27:12,880
it the funny thing is if all could be

2097
01:27:15,910 --> 01:27:14,239
revealed and that's one thing that i

2098
01:27:17,430 --> 01:27:15,920
hope is true about the afterlife the

2099
01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:17,440
idea that you get like this great

2100
01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:19,520
knowledge and you kind of get it when

2101
01:27:23,990 --> 01:27:22,000
you die you kind of like oh that's what

2102
01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:24,000
that was all about

2103
01:27:28,149 --> 01:27:25,760
that would be one of the coolest things

2104
01:27:31,510 --> 01:27:28,159
is to have that and to understand

2105
01:27:33,990 --> 01:27:31,520
oh now i understand slenderman and i

2106
01:27:35,430 --> 01:27:34,000
understand tulpas and i understand ufos

2107
01:27:36,470 --> 01:27:35,440
and i understand aliens that would be

2108
01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:36,480
very cool

2109
01:27:40,950 --> 01:27:38,320
do you think um

2110
01:27:42,550 --> 01:27:40,960
uh you know using the word tulpa in a

2111
01:27:44,310 --> 01:27:42,560
general sense

2112
01:27:46,470 --> 01:27:44,320
that when you get a group of people

2113
01:27:47,990 --> 01:27:46,480
together and i've done this many many

2114
01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:48,000
times you get a group of people together

2115
01:27:50,950 --> 01:27:49,440
you want to go out and do a sky watch

2116
01:27:52,870 --> 01:27:50,960
and everybody's got their night vision

2117
01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:52,880
and we're all in the right frame of mind

2118
01:27:56,629 --> 01:27:54,719
you got 100 people together and you're

2119
01:27:58,390 --> 01:27:56,639
whooping and hollering and the next

2120
01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:58,400
thing you know right

2121
01:28:03,750 --> 01:28:01,040
friggin chip right overhead

2122
01:28:07,590 --> 01:28:03,760
is is that is

2123
01:28:09,030 --> 01:28:07,600
is that consciousness connecting with

2124
01:28:12,390 --> 01:28:09,040
e.t

2125
01:28:15,350 --> 01:28:12,400
or are we manifesting it which in in the

2126
01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:15,360
same respects would be equally as cool

2127
01:28:20,550 --> 01:28:18,400
and maybe the same thing

2128
01:28:24,550 --> 01:28:20,560
well it makes me think about the philip

2129
01:28:26,550 --> 01:28:24,560
experiment from the early 70s right

2130
01:28:29,910 --> 01:28:26,560
it was in canada i believe it was in

2131
01:28:31,990 --> 01:28:29,920
this group uh basically generated i

2132
01:28:33,189 --> 01:28:32,000
think they generated a

2133
01:28:36,070 --> 01:28:33,199
a a

2134
01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:36,080
a ghost through seances and they

2135
01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:38,400
actually started to feel these things

2136
01:28:42,470 --> 01:28:40,639
that's exactly what

2137
01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:42,480
it reminds me of

2138
01:28:45,030 --> 01:28:43,360
and i

2139
01:28:46,709 --> 01:28:45,040
i wouldn't rule out that doesn't mean

2140
01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:46,719
that every i i don't want people to

2141
01:28:51,430 --> 01:28:48,719
interpret this to think well every ghost

2142
01:28:53,910 --> 01:28:51,440
is a tulpa and everything is all in our

2143
01:28:56,629 --> 01:28:53,920
mind and any that's not what i mean but

2144
01:28:58,790 --> 01:28:56,639
i do think that we can generate things i

2145
01:29:01,270 --> 01:28:58,800
mean there's um something called the the

2146
01:29:04,790 --> 01:29:01,280
third man phenomenon

2147
01:29:06,629 --> 01:29:04,800
and when people are in dire straits

2148
01:29:08,950 --> 01:29:06,639
uh like on the side of the mountain

2149
01:29:11,110 --> 01:29:08,960
climbing a mountain and you know they're

2150
01:29:12,870 --> 01:29:11,120
about ready to die or they have to be in

2151
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:12,880
this survival situation they hear

2152
01:29:16,709 --> 01:29:14,800
somebody talk to them

2153
01:29:19,110 --> 01:29:16,719
and scientists have come up with

2154
01:29:21,510 --> 01:29:19,120
theories and so forth before

2155
01:29:23,189 --> 01:29:21,520
about it i think maybe the theory is

2156
01:29:25,669 --> 01:29:23,199
maybe actually somebody's really trying

2157
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:25,679
to help us but this idea that some other

2158
01:29:29,270 --> 01:29:27,600
thing or some other being is talking to

2159
01:29:30,790 --> 01:29:29,280
us fascinating stuff

2160
01:29:33,189 --> 01:29:30,800
i um

2161
01:29:35,590 --> 01:29:33,199
oh man i've got 20 seconds before the

2162
01:29:36,629 --> 01:29:35,600
break okay tonight our guest is jim

2163
01:29:38,310 --> 01:29:36,639
harold

2164
01:29:40,390 --> 01:29:38,320
and that's what happens when you have a

2165
01:29:42,870 --> 01:29:40,400
great conversation that just slipped by

2166
01:29:44,790 --> 01:29:42,880
me our guest tonight jim harold will be

2167
01:29:46,870 --> 01:29:44,800
right back after this short break this

2168
01:29:48,870 --> 01:29:46,880
is fade to black i'm yours jimmy church

2169
01:29:52,070 --> 01:29:48,880
and uh don't worry

2170
01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:52,080
i'm gonna have jim share some of his uh

2171
01:29:55,430 --> 01:29:54,239
some of his best tonight with us but

2172
01:29:57,990 --> 01:29:55,440
when i come back

2173
01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:58,000
jim remind me to tell you the stop light

2174
01:30:01,189 --> 01:29:59,760
story

2175
01:30:02,470 --> 01:30:01,199
yeah we'll do all of that when we come

2176
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:02,480
back let's fade to black i'm really too

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01:30:07,370 --> 01:30:18,070
[Music]

2178
01:30:24,310 --> 01:30:21,270
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2179
01:30:26,149 --> 01:30:24,320
you're listening to fade to black

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01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:26,159
always on the edge of the hottest

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01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:28,880
alternative talk jimmy church with fade

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01:30:50,950 --> 01:30:48,310
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01:30:53,189 --> 01:30:50,960
not of course you do this is jimmy

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01:30:55,390 --> 01:30:53,199
church of fade to black just go to our

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01:31:01,430 --> 01:30:59,280
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2204
01:31:41,270 --> 01:31:38,400
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2205
01:31:44,070 --> 01:31:41,280
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2206
01:31:47,430 --> 01:31:44,080
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um jim i wanted to uh okay so we're

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talking about consciousness and how

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everything is connected

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um and i wanted to share the stoplight

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story with you because it it's real it

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01:36:20,550 --> 01:36:17,840
happened

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01:36:24,790 --> 01:36:20,560
and uh this is the deal i like to drive

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fast i have fast cars i said that plural

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and

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the valley

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and i'm

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exceeding the speed limit

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and i'm coming up to a green light i can

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just drive straight through it

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but uh

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on the street corner

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01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:48,239
facing me to to my right is a couple man

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and a woman

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and they step into the street

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i hit my brakes i'm at a green light

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right

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i can drive through the light but they

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01:37:04,470 --> 01:37:00,400
step into the street and i was like oh

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my whoa and i would and i i stopped

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01:37:13,030 --> 01:37:09,280
and uh hit the brakes and at that moment

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a pickup truck a big one a dooley it was

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01:37:15,910 --> 01:37:14,080
white

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01:37:17,990 --> 01:37:15,920
ran the red light

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01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:18,000
oh boy and now

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01:37:24,390 --> 01:37:21,840
had they not stepped into the street

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01:37:27,350 --> 01:37:24,400
i wouldn't be here talking to you today

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01:37:29,830 --> 01:37:27,360
now now what is what is going on here it

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01:37:30,790 --> 01:37:29,840
seems like a simple story and of course

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the

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light

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i then they back up and stand on the

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curb

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i proceed through the

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01:37:44,390 --> 01:37:42,400
you know through the green light and i

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get to and and i started thinking to

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01:37:49,109 --> 01:37:46,639
myself that was crazy

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01:37:51,270 --> 01:37:49,119
i almost got t-boned and as i was

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01:37:52,390 --> 01:37:51,280
driving i thought about the series of

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01:37:55,270 --> 01:37:52,400
events

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01:37:56,470 --> 01:37:55,280
right them stepping into the street

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01:37:59,030 --> 01:37:56,480
um

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01:38:00,629 --> 01:37:59,040
they actually prevented me

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01:38:02,709 --> 01:38:00,639
from this

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01:38:05,990 --> 01:38:02,719
right and and

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01:38:08,310 --> 01:38:06,000
most people jim would let this go

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01:38:10,390 --> 01:38:08,320
they wouldn't think about the series of

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01:38:13,350 --> 01:38:10,400
of events that

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01:38:15,830 --> 01:38:13,360
that actually went down and that was

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01:38:17,350 --> 01:38:15,840
some kind of intervention there was

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01:38:19,910 --> 01:38:17,360
something

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01:38:22,149 --> 01:38:19,920
subconsciously going down i'm not wrong

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01:38:23,990 --> 01:38:22,159
in thinking that am i i don't think so

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01:38:26,149 --> 01:38:24,000
at all i believe

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01:38:27,350 --> 01:38:26,159
now now i'll get to the tough part of

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01:38:30,149 --> 01:38:27,360
this theory

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01:38:31,109 --> 01:38:30,159
because there's a flip side to this too

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01:38:33,350 --> 01:38:31,119
uh

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01:38:35,990 --> 01:38:33,360
when i think about 9 11 and all the

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01:38:37,910 --> 01:38:36,000
people who said well i was late for work

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01:38:40,390 --> 01:38:37,920
that day

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01:38:42,149 --> 01:38:40,400
i um you know

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01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:42,159
something happened i forgot something i

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01:38:46,709 --> 01:38:44,480
had to go back my kid was sick this

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01:38:48,310 --> 01:38:46,719
happened that happened i was 20 minutes

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01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:48,320
late for work

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01:38:52,550 --> 01:38:50,639
and if i had been there we even had

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01:38:53,669 --> 01:38:52,560
somebody call in

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01:38:54,870 --> 01:38:53,679
um

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01:38:57,189 --> 01:38:54,880
who was supposed to be on one of the

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01:38:59,669 --> 01:38:57,199
flights that went down

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01:39:02,310 --> 01:38:59,679
and through a series of weird events

2363
01:39:04,709 --> 01:39:02,320
this was on campfire

2364
01:39:06,310 --> 01:39:04,719
that i i think it was the husband who

2365
01:39:08,709 --> 01:39:06,320
said i won't go on that plane i want

2366
01:39:10,390 --> 01:39:08,719
another plane just something and then

2367
01:39:13,109 --> 01:39:10,400
this happens

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01:39:15,189 --> 01:39:13,119
and i do believe god the universe

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01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:15,199
whatever you want to call it

2370
01:39:18,950 --> 01:39:17,520
something steps in and puts things in

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01:39:21,350 --> 01:39:18,960
our ways

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01:39:23,350 --> 01:39:21,360
to make certain things

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01:39:25,350 --> 01:39:23,360
more likely to happen or to happen i

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01:39:27,590 --> 01:39:25,360
believe that's true i believe it's

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01:39:30,070 --> 01:39:27,600
happened to me

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01:39:31,830 --> 01:39:30,080
did i ever tell you my drive-by story no

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01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:31,840
i was

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01:39:34,470 --> 01:39:32,800
okay

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01:39:36,629 --> 01:39:34,480
what do you mean what happened to you

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01:39:38,229 --> 01:39:36,639
okay okay well this is pretty good this

2381
01:39:39,669 --> 01:39:38,239
is up there with yours

2382
01:39:41,990 --> 01:39:39,679
so anyway

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01:39:42,830 --> 01:39:42,000
my wife and i were dating this would

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01:39:44,629 --> 01:39:42,840
have been

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01:39:46,950 --> 01:39:44,639
1994

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01:39:48,709 --> 01:39:46,960
and we'd only been dating for

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01:39:49,750 --> 01:39:48,719
three four five months something like

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01:39:52,310 --> 01:39:49,760
that

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01:39:53,910 --> 01:39:52,320
and uh we went uh we're in ohio so we

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01:39:55,750 --> 01:39:53,920
went to cedar point which is the big

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01:39:58,310 --> 01:39:55,760
coaster park here

2392
01:40:00,229 --> 01:39:58,320
been there many times yeah great place

2393
01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:00,239
yes it is it's awesome

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01:40:05,350 --> 01:40:03,040
and it was a really good place for me uh

2395
01:40:06,629 --> 01:40:05,360
and you'll find out why

2396
01:40:08,470 --> 01:40:06,639
so anyway

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01:40:11,669 --> 01:40:08,480
i lived in the

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01:40:15,189 --> 01:40:11,679
city i lived in uh it's called slavic

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01:40:17,830 --> 01:40:15,199
village was part of cleveland a high

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01:40:18,870 --> 01:40:17,840
polish eastern european community very

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01:40:21,030 --> 01:40:18,880
ethnic

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01:40:24,390 --> 01:40:21,040
uh it was a little bit on the down hill

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01:40:25,910 --> 01:40:24,400
slide 27 years ago or whatever it was

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01:40:27,270 --> 01:40:25,920
but it was still you know kind of

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01:40:30,709 --> 01:40:27,280
hanging in there

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01:40:33,109 --> 01:40:30,719
so anyway i lived in an a-frame house

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01:40:35,350 --> 01:40:33,119
by myself you know recently out of

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01:40:37,669 --> 01:40:35,360
college all of that good stuff

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01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:37,679
so anyway we went to cedar point for the

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01:40:42,149 --> 01:40:39,520
day from tickets i got from the radio

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01:40:43,350 --> 01:40:42,159
station right right

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01:40:46,229 --> 01:40:43,360
so

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01:40:48,390 --> 01:40:46,239
uh i was driving her back home and i

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01:40:49,590 --> 01:40:48,400
lived about i don't know about 30 40

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01:40:52,790 --> 01:40:49,600
minutes from her because she lived in

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01:40:54,950 --> 01:40:52,800
the suburbs i lived in the tough city

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01:40:57,669 --> 01:40:54,960
uh and um

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01:41:00,149 --> 01:40:57,679
she said uh i'm gonna go in and ask my

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01:41:01,750 --> 01:41:00,159
dad if you can sleep on the couch now i

2420
01:41:05,270 --> 01:41:01,760
kind of didn't know these people very

2421
01:41:08,149 --> 01:41:05,280
well her dad is uh uh you know uh

2422
01:41:10,310 --> 01:41:08,159
italian uh from uh you know it was born

2423
01:41:13,030 --> 01:41:10,320
in italy grew up in italy and then

2424
01:41:13,750 --> 01:41:13,040
emigrated here uh a guy kind of scared

2425
01:41:15,430 --> 01:41:13,760
me a little bit

2426
01:41:17,270 --> 01:41:15,440
[Laughter]

2427
01:41:18,870 --> 01:41:17,280
sure i said i don't want to sleep on

2428
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:18,880
your couch i don't want to ask your

2429
01:41:22,550 --> 01:41:20,800
family to do that it's one o'clock in

2430
01:41:24,070 --> 01:41:22,560
the morning 1 30 in the morning you're

2431
01:41:25,510 --> 01:41:24,080
going to wake up your dad and ask him if

2432
01:41:28,149 --> 01:41:25,520
i can sleep on the couch and she's like

2433
01:41:31,830 --> 01:41:28,159
yes you're going to fall asleep

2434
01:41:35,510 --> 01:41:31,840
so as i usually do i said yes dear and

2435
01:41:37,270 --> 01:41:35,520
she did and luckily her dad did we had a

2436
01:41:39,109 --> 01:41:37,280
you know i slept on the couch had a nice

2437
01:41:40,950 --> 01:41:39,119
breakfast and that was kind of the

2438
01:41:43,030 --> 01:41:40,960
moment i knew i think i'm going to be a

2439
01:41:44,310 --> 01:41:43,040
part of this family eventually but

2440
01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:44,320
anyhow

2441
01:41:49,189 --> 01:41:46,480
so i drive back home

2442
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:49,199
i pull up to the front i'm like

2443
01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:50,800
i'm in a good mood you know i'm feeling

2444
01:41:53,990 --> 01:41:52,080
really good

2445
01:41:55,750 --> 01:41:54,000
my uh

2446
01:41:57,189 --> 01:41:55,760
landlord's son

2447
01:41:58,629 --> 01:41:57,199
is across the

2448
01:42:00,629 --> 01:41:58,639
street pointing

2449
01:42:02,470 --> 01:42:00,639
towards the side of our uh

2450
01:42:04,149 --> 01:42:02,480
where our house is

2451
01:42:06,229 --> 01:42:04,159
and he lived in the back half of the

2452
01:42:09,430 --> 01:42:06,239
house it was an old style a-frame house

2453
01:42:11,430 --> 01:42:09,440
that was probably built about 1900

2454
01:42:13,030 --> 01:42:11,440
nothing fancy i assure you

2455
01:42:14,709 --> 01:42:13,040
so anyway

2456
01:42:17,270 --> 01:42:14,719
i get out and i'm like hey dave how you

2457
01:42:19,270 --> 01:42:17,280
doing how's it going

2458
01:42:21,270 --> 01:42:19,280
he said i gotta talk to you a minute i'm

2459
01:42:23,830 --> 01:42:21,280
like what

2460
01:42:25,830 --> 01:42:23,840
and there's like there's been a drive-by

2461
01:42:27,109 --> 01:42:25,840
and i'm like a drive-by whose house got

2462
01:42:29,590 --> 01:42:27,119
shut up

2463
01:42:31,830 --> 01:42:29,600
our house got shot up

2464
01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:31,840
apparently about three o'clock in the

2465
01:42:35,430 --> 01:42:33,119
morning

2466
01:42:37,109 --> 01:42:35,440
uh somebody came by with

2467
01:42:40,390 --> 01:42:37,119
literally i kid you not i have a piece

2468
01:42:43,350 --> 01:42:40,400
of the shrapnel in ak-47 and they put

2469
01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:43,360
several rounds into our house i had a

2470
01:42:47,590 --> 01:42:45,520
old avocado gold double door

2471
01:42:49,350 --> 01:42:47,600
refrigerator took a direct hit through

2472
01:42:51,189 --> 01:42:49,360
one side throw a ketchup bottle out the

2473
01:42:53,669 --> 01:42:51,199
other i have bought a brand new

2474
01:42:56,390 --> 01:42:53,679
microwave as my first acquisition as a

2475
01:42:58,870 --> 01:42:56,400
new independent person

2476
01:43:02,629 --> 01:42:58,880
it took a direct hit what

2477
01:43:04,310 --> 01:43:02,639
yeah ak-47 the police showed up this is

2478
01:43:05,910 --> 01:43:04,320
while i was over at

2479
01:43:07,750 --> 01:43:05,920
dar's house

2480
01:43:10,149 --> 01:43:07,760
and he said what does this guy who lives

2481
01:43:12,149 --> 01:43:10,159
here what does he do anyway they thought

2482
01:43:13,189 --> 01:43:12,159
i was like some kind of

2483
01:43:15,189 --> 01:43:13,199
stuff

2484
01:43:17,590 --> 01:43:15,199
yeah exactly well what happened was a

2485
01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:17,600
very simple explanation i just signed

2486
01:43:22,070 --> 01:43:19,840
the papers to leave because i felt that

2487
01:43:24,390 --> 01:43:22,080
the people next door were bad news it

2488
01:43:26,149 --> 01:43:24,400
was a bunch of like young people and i

2489
01:43:28,470 --> 01:43:26,159
told my wife

2490
01:43:29,990 --> 01:43:28,480
uh not my wife at the time i said those

2491
01:43:31,669 --> 01:43:30,000
people are no good there's a problem

2492
01:43:33,990 --> 01:43:31,679
there's going to be problems she's like

2493
01:43:36,790 --> 01:43:34,000
oh you're kidding and i'm like she's

2494
01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:36,800
and i said no i know i grew up in the

2495
01:43:41,189 --> 01:43:39,119
city i grew up in the inner city i know

2496
01:43:43,109 --> 01:43:41,199
trouble when i see it they are trouble

2497
01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:43,119
apparently they crossed a motorcycle

2498
01:43:47,430 --> 01:43:44,880
gang

2499
01:43:49,830 --> 01:43:47,440
and uh

2500
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:49,840
two houses were blue one was dark blue

2501
01:43:55,109 --> 01:43:52,560
one was light blue under the amber

2502
01:43:56,070 --> 01:43:55,119
colored street light

2503
01:43:57,109 --> 01:43:56,080
the

2504
01:43:59,270 --> 01:43:57,119
amber

2505
01:44:01,590 --> 01:43:59,280
made their house look white and ours

2506
01:44:02,950 --> 01:44:01,600
very blue they hit the wrong house

2507
01:44:06,229 --> 01:44:02,960
now

2508
01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:06,239
to your stoplight story

2509
01:44:09,910 --> 01:44:09,040
i had spent very few nights not in that

2510
01:44:12,070 --> 01:44:09,920
house

2511
01:44:13,669 --> 01:44:12,080
but i just happened to be at cedar point

2512
01:44:15,669 --> 01:44:13,679
that day when i just happened to get

2513
01:44:18,310 --> 01:44:15,679
tickets and

2514
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:18,320
dar just happened to feel

2515
01:44:23,189 --> 01:44:20,800
that i might have a problem i might fall

2516
01:44:24,790 --> 01:44:23,199
asleep which i may have

2517
01:44:27,350 --> 01:44:24,800
and i just happened to stay overnight

2518
01:44:29,990 --> 01:44:27,360
and her dad just happened to say yes

2519
01:44:31,750 --> 01:44:30,000
and i just happened not to get killed

2520
01:44:34,550 --> 01:44:31,760
yeah exactly

2521
01:44:35,830 --> 01:44:34,560
so it's to to take a long-winded way to

2522
01:44:39,270 --> 01:44:35,840
answer your question about the stop

2523
01:44:41,990 --> 01:44:39,280
light story i believe the universe

2524
01:44:43,669 --> 01:44:42,000
puts the chess pieces in place and it's

2525
01:44:46,470 --> 01:44:43,679
not just one thing

2526
01:44:48,229 --> 01:44:46,480
it's like four five ten a thousand

2527
01:44:50,149 --> 01:44:48,239
things have to happen to get that

2528
01:44:51,590 --> 01:44:50,159
outcome i believe that happens i believe

2529
01:44:52,870 --> 01:44:51,600
it happened to you i believe it happened

2530
01:44:55,270 --> 01:44:52,880
to me

2531
01:44:57,109 --> 01:44:55,280
here's where that theory gets tough

2532
01:44:59,750 --> 01:44:57,119
what about the person who gets on that

2533
01:45:02,310 --> 01:44:59,760
plane that crashes yeah what about that

2534
01:45:04,950 --> 01:45:02,320
person who gets killed in a drive-by

2535
01:45:07,750 --> 01:45:04,960
shooting how do we explain that

2536
01:45:11,350 --> 01:45:07,760
and that's the one that's really tough

2537
01:45:13,189 --> 01:45:11,360
it is but it isn't

2538
01:45:14,830 --> 01:45:13,199
too many people

2539
01:45:16,470 --> 01:45:14,840
ignore

2540
01:45:18,070 --> 01:45:16,480
synchronicities

2541
01:45:19,030 --> 01:45:18,080
that's the thing

2542
01:45:22,870 --> 01:45:19,040
and

2543
01:45:24,149 --> 01:45:22,880
you have a choice in front of you a or b

2544
01:45:26,870 --> 01:45:24,159
and

2545
01:45:28,310 --> 01:45:26,880
they know the right choice but they take

2546
01:45:31,510 --> 01:45:28,320
the other one

2547
01:45:32,709 --> 01:45:31,520
right and it's a series of unfortunate

2548
01:45:35,189 --> 01:45:32,719
events

2549
01:45:37,830 --> 01:45:35,199
that if they back up and

2550
01:45:40,550 --> 01:45:37,840
and and say well if i would have just

2551
01:45:43,430 --> 01:45:40,560
right and then the famous adage comes in

2552
01:45:46,709 --> 01:45:43,440
well you know hindsight is 20 20. right

2553
01:45:49,910 --> 01:45:46,719
but that that's exactly what we could be

2554
01:45:53,510 --> 01:45:49,920
talking about here that everybody

2555
01:45:54,629 --> 01:45:53,520
that gets into an unfortunate situation

2556
01:45:55,830 --> 01:45:54,639
um

2557
01:46:00,229 --> 01:45:55,840
had

2558
01:46:03,270 --> 01:46:00,239
they did and didn't take

2559
01:46:04,950 --> 01:46:03,280
um and and and i believe in that and

2560
01:46:06,149 --> 01:46:04,960
look there's there's the other part of

2561
01:46:08,950 --> 01:46:06,159
this gym

2562
01:46:11,270 --> 01:46:08,960
you could have said you know what no no

2563
01:46:13,030 --> 01:46:11,280
i'm not sleeping on your couch and it's

2564
01:46:14,870 --> 01:46:13,040
not the right thing to do which is what

2565
01:46:15,910 --> 01:46:14,880
i would have done right i would have

2566
01:46:17,350 --> 01:46:15,920
talked

2567
01:46:19,830 --> 01:46:17,360
somebody out of it

2568
01:46:21,590 --> 01:46:19,840
um i'm not cool with

2569
01:46:22,550 --> 01:46:21,600
sleeping on my girlfriend's parents

2570
01:46:26,470 --> 01:46:22,560
couch

2571
01:46:27,830 --> 01:46:26,480
uh in in any situation so anyway

2572
01:46:29,990 --> 01:46:27,840
you go home

2573
01:46:32,629 --> 01:46:30,000
late night and you go and you grab the

2574
01:46:34,709 --> 01:46:32,639
pizza rolls out of the refrigerator and

2575
01:46:36,310 --> 01:46:34,719
you're at the microwave

2576
01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:36,320
that's right well that's why i got to

2577
01:46:40,390 --> 01:46:37,920
think because i lived on it was two

2578
01:46:42,310 --> 01:46:40,400
levels so theoretically

2579
01:46:43,270 --> 01:46:42,320
i might have been in my bed i might have

2580
01:46:45,510 --> 01:46:43,280
just

2581
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:45,520
uh i might have been fine other than

2582
01:46:49,350 --> 01:46:46,410
soiling myself

2583
01:46:51,430 --> 01:46:49,360
[Laughter]

2584
01:46:53,350 --> 01:46:51,440
but what if i got thirsty and i went

2585
01:46:56,070 --> 01:46:53,360
downstairs to the kitchen or to your

2586
01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:56,080
point the pizza rolls the pizza rolls

2587
01:47:01,189 --> 01:46:58,320
yeah yeah yeah you grabbed that ketchup

2588
01:47:02,709 --> 01:47:01,199
bottle for you know that uh cold burger

2589
01:47:03,910 --> 01:47:02,719
that was in the refrigerator you know

2590
01:47:04,790 --> 01:47:03,920
whatever

2591
01:47:08,070 --> 01:47:04,800
um

2592
01:47:09,750 --> 01:47:08,080
that is an absolutely uh incredible

2593
01:47:11,270 --> 01:47:09,760
story and you're right

2594
01:47:13,669 --> 01:47:11,280
saved your life

2595
01:47:15,189 --> 01:47:13,679
girlfriend multiple things had to happen

2596
01:47:17,189 --> 01:47:15,199
and i've had that other times with

2597
01:47:18,310 --> 01:47:17,199
little and this is something that comes

2598
01:47:21,910 --> 01:47:18,320
across

2599
01:47:24,470 --> 01:47:21,920
on the campfire a lot and we get a lot

2600
01:47:26,149 --> 01:47:24,480
of these are these synchronicities

2601
01:47:28,229 --> 01:47:26,159
people

2602
01:47:30,790 --> 01:47:28,239
have these glitches in the matrix things

2603
01:47:31,750 --> 01:47:30,800
that don't quite make sense

2604
01:47:33,910 --> 01:47:31,760
um

2605
01:47:36,950 --> 01:47:33,920
you know the the most famous one on our

2606
01:47:39,189 --> 01:47:36,960
show is the the the road house saloon

2607
01:47:41,270 --> 01:47:39,199
uh where the the woman walked into a

2608
01:47:43,830 --> 01:47:41,280
portal i think i told that story yeah

2609
01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:43,840
that's an incredible incredible story we

2610
01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:46,000
just had a woman on the show who said

2611
01:47:52,950 --> 01:47:51,280
that she went to a saloon to a bar and

2612
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:52,960
she was with some friends and she had a

2613
01:47:57,270 --> 01:47:55,040
couple drinks but nothing crazy

2614
01:48:00,149 --> 01:47:57,280
and all of a sudden

2615
01:48:03,109 --> 01:48:00,159
everything there turned into like a

2616
01:48:08,229 --> 01:48:03,119
hundred years earlier and she was there

2617
01:48:12,870 --> 01:48:09,910
again

2618
01:48:15,590 --> 01:48:12,880
the nature of reality

2619
01:48:17,510 --> 01:48:15,600
these things that seem impossible are

2620
01:48:19,910 --> 01:48:17,520
possible so that tells us that our

2621
01:48:22,790 --> 01:48:19,920
perception of reality i think

2622
01:48:24,709 --> 01:48:22,800
is not correct that the time is not

2623
01:48:26,070 --> 01:48:24,719
necessarily linear

2624
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:26,080
you know and i think we talked about

2625
01:48:30,470 --> 01:48:27,920
this last time something like retro

2626
01:48:32,310 --> 01:48:30,480
causality i can think of something now

2627
01:48:34,149 --> 01:48:32,320
and that might affect something in the

2628
01:48:35,990 --> 01:48:34,159
past

2629
01:48:38,149 --> 01:48:36,000
you know those kind

2630
01:48:40,390 --> 01:48:38,159
it just gets really mind-blowing after a

2631
01:48:43,590 --> 01:48:40,400
while now um

2632
01:48:47,350 --> 01:48:43,600
what is how do we explain

2633
01:48:50,629 --> 01:48:47,360
uh these events that people talk about

2634
01:48:52,229 --> 01:48:50,639
uh i've i think i've had a couple myself

2635
01:48:53,109 --> 01:48:52,239
maybe you have

2636
01:48:55,990 --> 01:48:53,119
where

2637
01:48:57,830 --> 01:48:56,000
they take a step or they drive whatever

2638
01:48:59,350 --> 01:48:57,840
but you go from

2639
01:49:01,830 --> 01:48:59,360
right now

2640
01:49:03,590 --> 01:49:01,840
into something else

2641
01:49:07,350 --> 01:49:03,600
it may be in the past it may be in the

2642
01:49:09,189 --> 01:49:07,360
future but it's not the same

2643
01:49:11,430 --> 01:49:09,199
something has changed

2644
01:49:12,790 --> 01:49:11,440
and and they know their environment they

2645
01:49:15,990 --> 01:49:12,800
know their neighborhood they know the

2646
01:49:17,910 --> 01:49:16,000
city that they uh you know grew up in

2647
01:49:19,030 --> 01:49:17,920
and suddenly they're seeing something

2648
01:49:21,669 --> 01:49:19,040
different

2649
01:49:23,830 --> 01:49:21,679
um how do we how do we start to explain

2650
01:49:25,910 --> 01:49:23,840
that away i don't know i think you had

2651
01:49:28,550 --> 01:49:25,920
the story about indianapolis right yes

2652
01:49:30,950 --> 01:49:28,560
if i remember correctly we had a a woman

2653
01:49:33,189 --> 01:49:30,960
on a campfire who literally she was i

2654
01:49:35,750 --> 01:49:33,199
think she was a teenager and she was

2655
01:49:37,430 --> 01:49:35,760
walking and it basically turned into it

2656
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:37,440
sounded like almost the same

2657
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:39,360
neighborhood but the old west or at

2658
01:49:43,990 --> 01:49:41,679
least like the early 1900s

2659
01:49:46,149 --> 01:49:44,000
and she saw the shops and she saw like

2660
01:49:47,830 --> 01:49:46,159
wagons and all kinds of things and she

2661
01:49:50,070 --> 01:49:47,840
walked around for a while

2662
01:49:51,830 --> 01:49:50,080
very twilight zoney and then eventually

2663
01:49:53,830 --> 01:49:51,840
turned back to her

2664
01:49:55,750 --> 01:49:53,840
her present day at that time

2665
01:49:57,669 --> 01:49:55,760
neighborhood i don't know how we explain

2666
01:50:00,550 --> 01:49:57,679
that but that gets back to the idea that

2667
01:50:02,709 --> 01:50:00,560
is time linear uh i know nick redfearn

2668
01:50:03,510 --> 01:50:02,719
and i'm sure you'll have him on the show

2669
01:50:04,950 --> 01:50:03,520
uh

2670
01:50:07,109 --> 01:50:04,960
is writing a book or is going to be

2671
01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:07,119
coming out with a book on time travel

2672
01:50:12,229 --> 01:50:10,080
and i'm fascinated by it there's even

2673
01:50:14,390 --> 01:50:12,239
discussions that maybe the chinese are

2674
01:50:15,990 --> 01:50:14,400
working on some kind of time travel

2675
01:50:18,709 --> 01:50:16,000
device

2676
01:50:22,229 --> 01:50:20,950
it seems crazy it seems like it doesn't

2677
01:50:25,510 --> 01:50:22,239
make sense

2678
01:50:26,390 --> 01:50:25,520
but maybe it does maybe there is a way

2679
01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:26,400
to

2680
01:50:34,870 --> 01:50:32,080
words it might be like um you know on a

2681
01:50:36,950 --> 01:50:34,880
computer you have random access memory

2682
01:50:39,030 --> 01:50:36,960
that you know you can grab memory all

2683
01:50:41,830 --> 01:50:39,040
over the the disk

2684
01:50:44,070 --> 01:50:41,840
um maybe time is like that

2685
01:50:45,910 --> 01:50:44,080
maybe it's not you know there it's gone

2686
01:50:47,750 --> 01:50:45,920
and it's over and here's in the future

2687
01:50:49,270 --> 01:50:47,760
and we can't reach it but it's more

2688
01:50:50,629 --> 01:50:49,280
random access

2689
01:50:55,350 --> 01:50:50,639
but

2690
01:50:57,750 --> 01:50:55,360
is possible there is uh

2691
01:51:00,550 --> 01:50:57,760
uh george van tassel

2692
01:51:04,470 --> 01:51:00,560
a very fascinating guy and

2693
01:51:07,270 --> 01:51:04,480
uh but uh he in this there's a

2694
01:51:10,070 --> 01:51:07,280
a rare it's black and white

2695
01:51:13,350 --> 01:51:10,080
a tv interview that he did

2696
01:51:15,510 --> 01:51:13,360
and the interviewer if anybody wants to

2697
01:51:17,350 --> 01:51:15,520
go and look this up uh the interviewer i

2698
01:51:21,430 --> 01:51:17,360
think is like from scotland right he's

2699
01:51:23,270 --> 01:51:21,440
got this this this accent so anyway but

2700
01:51:24,310 --> 01:51:23,280
van tassel

2701
01:51:27,589 --> 01:51:24,320
says

2702
01:51:30,149 --> 01:51:27,599
uh i think this is from 1960

2703
01:51:33,430 --> 01:51:30,159
and george is there in a suit and a tie

2704
01:51:36,149 --> 01:51:33,440
and looks you know perfectly normal

2705
01:51:37,030 --> 01:51:36,159
but says to the interviewer

2706
01:51:38,229 --> 01:51:37,040
that

2707
01:51:41,750 --> 01:51:38,239
he

2708
01:51:42,870 --> 01:51:41,760
was given information from

2709
01:51:44,950 --> 01:51:42,880
e.t

2710
01:51:47,589 --> 01:51:44,960
this is 1960

2711
01:51:51,109 --> 01:51:47,599
on how to build

2712
01:51:51,990 --> 01:51:51,119
a time capture device and that he built

2713
01:51:54,870 --> 01:51:52,000
it

2714
01:51:57,270 --> 01:51:54,880
in downtown santa monica california and

2715
01:51:59,750 --> 01:51:57,280
in the interview and i've since looked

2716
01:52:01,430 --> 01:51:59,760
this up i'll get to the point

2717
01:52:03,669 --> 01:52:01,440
he gives the address and he talks about

2718
01:52:06,390 --> 01:52:03,679
the street and the building where this

2719
01:52:09,350 --> 01:52:06,400
this device has been built but this is

2720
01:52:13,669 --> 01:52:09,360
this is how he describes it and remember

2721
01:52:15,109 --> 01:52:13,679
this is 1960 it sounds like 2021.

2722
01:52:15,990 --> 01:52:15,119
he says

2723
01:52:16,950 --> 01:52:16,000
that

2724
01:52:25,510 --> 01:52:16,960
the

2725
01:52:29,030 --> 01:52:25,520
go back and view

2726
01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:29,040
anything up to six years before

2727
01:52:33,830 --> 01:52:32,000
now not seven right that the limits of

2728
01:52:37,750 --> 01:52:33,840
this was six years

2729
01:52:41,030 --> 01:52:37,760
but that everything

2730
01:52:43,430 --> 01:52:41,040
is recorded it's recorded by nature

2731
01:52:46,790 --> 01:52:43,440
you just have to go and access it and

2732
01:52:50,310 --> 01:52:46,800
he's got a device that can go and look

2733
01:52:52,229 --> 01:52:50,320
and view anything up to six years before

2734
01:52:54,149 --> 01:52:52,239
now i stopped and i thought about that

2735
01:52:55,750 --> 01:52:54,159
there's a lot of things about that that

2736
01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:55,760
make a lot of sense like what you're

2737
01:53:00,390 --> 01:52:57,040
saying here

2738
01:53:02,149 --> 01:53:00,400
right that um

2739
01:53:04,470 --> 01:53:02,159
maybe

2740
01:53:08,229 --> 01:53:04,480
everything is just captured

2741
01:53:11,030 --> 01:53:08,239
in its own digital form of nature

2742
01:53:13,990 --> 01:53:11,040
um but it it is out there and it is

2743
01:53:15,990 --> 01:53:14,000
recorded and like this ram right the

2744
01:53:17,030 --> 01:53:16,000
random access

2745
01:53:19,589 --> 01:53:17,040
ability

2746
01:53:21,750 --> 01:53:19,599
that every day past six years that you

2747
01:53:22,950 --> 01:53:21,760
move forward you lose that day in the

2748
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:22,960
past

2749
01:53:28,629 --> 01:53:26,560
it's like a dvr yes like a dvr that's

2750
01:53:30,390 --> 01:53:28,639
exactly right that's exactly right now

2751
01:53:32,550 --> 01:53:30,400
that that actually is funny you mention

2752
01:53:33,510 --> 01:53:32,560
that because that people say well if you

2753
01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:33,520
know

2754
01:53:36,709 --> 01:53:34,960
you're a party or something you're

2755
01:53:39,109 --> 01:53:36,719
talking to people what would superpower

2756
01:53:41,189 --> 01:53:39,119
would you want and that's what you just

2757
01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:41,199
described with the exception of six

2758
01:53:46,950 --> 01:53:43,360
years is exactly the one that i would

2759
01:53:49,189 --> 01:53:46,960
want is the ability to go back in time

2760
01:53:50,870 --> 01:53:49,199
and look at things not necessarily i

2761
01:53:52,870 --> 01:53:50,880
wouldn't want to change them i wouldn't

2762
01:53:54,550 --> 01:53:52,880
want to cause the butterfly effect or

2763
01:53:56,229 --> 01:53:54,560
any of that stuff with the grandfather

2764
01:53:58,070 --> 01:53:56,239
paradox and all that

2765
01:54:00,709 --> 01:53:58,080
but what i would like to do is have the

2766
01:54:02,470 --> 01:54:00,719
ability to go back and see what really

2767
01:54:05,910 --> 01:54:02,480
happened for example

2768
01:54:07,990 --> 01:54:05,920
dallas 1963 november

2769
01:54:09,589 --> 01:54:08,000
i would like to go back with my own eyes

2770
01:54:11,350 --> 01:54:09,599
and see what happened

2771
01:54:12,870 --> 01:54:11,360
i would like to go back

2772
01:54:15,109 --> 01:54:12,880
to various things because i'm a little

2773
01:54:17,669 --> 01:54:15,119
bit of a history buff and say okay what

2774
01:54:20,149 --> 01:54:17,679
was that be a fly on the wall

2775
01:54:23,189 --> 01:54:20,159
and say you know when the decision to do

2776
01:54:25,350 --> 01:54:23,199
thus and so d-day what was that like in

2777
01:54:29,669 --> 01:54:25,360
that room when they made the go decision

2778
01:54:32,310 --> 01:54:29,679
you know and and what was that like or

2779
01:54:33,990 --> 01:54:32,320
going way back the jesus christ

2780
01:54:36,149 --> 01:54:34,000
you know see what happened there just to

2781
01:54:38,390 --> 01:54:36,159
be a fly on the wall and not see it

2782
01:54:40,629 --> 01:54:38,400
through something somebody wrote or a

2783
01:54:42,709 --> 01:54:40,639
movie that they made but actually go

2784
01:54:44,629 --> 01:54:42,719
back and see it with your own eyes i

2785
01:54:47,510 --> 01:54:44,639
think in some ways that would be the

2786
01:54:50,790 --> 01:54:47,520
coolest superpower ever now what what do

2787
01:54:53,189 --> 01:54:50,800
you do i love that idea by the way

2788
01:54:55,589 --> 01:54:53,199
but what do you what do you do

2789
01:54:57,510 --> 01:54:55,599
if you find out that history's been

2790
01:54:59,270 --> 01:54:57,520
lying to us

2791
01:55:01,430 --> 01:54:59,280
right

2792
01:55:02,470 --> 01:55:01,440
now i think it's i i mean

2793
01:55:05,910 --> 01:55:02,480
you come back

2794
01:55:08,550 --> 01:55:05,920
everybody out well you know what jfk

2795
01:55:09,350 --> 01:55:08,560
oswald really did it right

2796
01:55:11,189 --> 01:55:09,360
right

2797
01:55:15,830 --> 01:55:11,199
well the thing is is i think

2798
01:55:20,390 --> 01:55:18,310
that we you know the idea that history

2799
01:55:21,750 --> 01:55:20,400
is written by the victors we're always

2800
01:55:25,109 --> 01:55:21,760
lied to

2801
01:55:27,910 --> 01:55:25,119
not necessarily in a nefarious way

2802
01:55:31,189 --> 01:55:27,920
but people who write the history texts

2803
01:55:34,629 --> 01:55:31,199
write it through their prism

2804
01:55:36,070 --> 01:55:34,639
it's just everything's subjective right

2805
01:55:38,229 --> 01:55:36,080
so

2806
01:55:40,229 --> 01:55:38,239
it's never i mean you know yourself you

2807
01:55:41,589 --> 01:55:40,239
know once you get some and i don't mean

2808
01:55:44,070 --> 01:55:41,599
this in a bad way but once you get some

2809
01:55:45,990 --> 01:55:44,080
age on we saw things like the challenger

2810
01:55:48,870 --> 01:55:46,000
explosion or different things that

2811
01:55:50,709 --> 01:55:48,880
happen and you see how it's portrayed in

2812
01:55:52,470 --> 01:55:50,719
documentaries right

2813
01:55:54,310 --> 01:55:52,480
and you're like i don't remember it

2814
01:55:55,430 --> 01:55:54,320
quite like that right all right don't

2815
01:55:56,870 --> 01:55:55,440
you know

2816
01:55:59,990 --> 01:55:56,880
it didn't happen well they missed this

2817
01:56:02,310 --> 01:56:00,000
they missed that we'll multiply that by

2818
01:56:03,990 --> 01:56:02,320
many decades and hundreds and thousands

2819
01:56:05,910 --> 01:56:04,000
of years

2820
01:56:07,270 --> 01:56:05,920
and you know yourself that

2821
01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:07,280
if you didn't live through the

2822
01:56:12,070 --> 01:56:10,400
challenger explosion that horrible day

2823
01:56:13,750 --> 01:56:12,080
you know um

2824
01:56:15,669 --> 01:56:13,760
you don't really know what it was like

2825
01:56:17,750 --> 01:56:15,679
to be alive at that time or what the

2826
01:56:19,589 --> 01:56:17,760
feeling was i mean you can kind of get

2827
01:56:20,709 --> 01:56:19,599
it across in a documentary but not

2828
01:56:23,830 --> 01:56:20,719
really

2829
01:56:26,950 --> 01:56:23,840
you know what i mean i do i do and um

2830
01:56:28,790 --> 01:56:26,960
have you been to uh d lee plaza

2831
01:56:32,390 --> 01:56:28,800
i have not that is somewhere i want to

2832
01:56:34,709 --> 01:56:32,400
okay um totally worth it even if you

2833
01:56:36,550 --> 01:56:34,719
just drive down the street and and take

2834
01:56:38,950 --> 01:56:36,560
a look around but

2835
01:56:42,709 --> 01:56:38,960
but uh i've been there a couple of times

2836
01:56:43,589 --> 01:56:42,719
and this is the trippy thing for me jim

2837
01:56:46,470 --> 01:56:43,599
is

2838
01:56:47,830 --> 01:56:46,480
the first thing you realize at least the

2839
01:56:49,910 --> 01:56:47,840
way it hit me

2840
01:56:51,990 --> 01:56:49,920
is it's tiny

2841
01:56:54,629 --> 01:56:52,000
all right you see that you watch the

2842
01:56:56,709 --> 01:56:54,639
zapruder you watch the film you see it

2843
01:56:59,350 --> 01:56:56,719
and you think it's big

2844
01:57:01,350 --> 01:56:59,360
it's not it's like this big

2845
01:57:03,910 --> 01:57:01,360
right and and you're looking at the

2846
01:57:06,229 --> 01:57:03,920
repository you're looking at the street

2847
01:57:08,950 --> 01:57:06,239
there's the grassy knoll which is like

2848
01:57:12,629 --> 01:57:08,960
the front yard of my house big right

2849
01:57:15,589 --> 01:57:12,639
it's small and and all that you can

2850
01:57:17,270 --> 01:57:15,599
think to yourself is

2851
01:57:19,669 --> 01:57:17,280
everybody knows really what happened

2852
01:57:21,589 --> 01:57:19,679
here it's too small

2853
01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:21,599
there's just no way

2854
01:57:27,189 --> 01:57:24,480
that there should be questions today

2855
01:57:29,350 --> 01:57:27,199
but you look up to the window

2856
01:57:31,910 --> 01:57:29,360
and you look down to the street and i

2857
01:57:33,589 --> 01:57:31,920
don't care how good of a shot you are

2858
01:57:36,550 --> 01:57:33,599
but a moving car

2859
01:57:38,550 --> 01:57:36,560
and that window ain't happening

2860
01:57:40,550 --> 01:57:38,560
you know and it's it's just common sense

2861
01:57:42,870 --> 01:57:40,560
and you're just looking around and and

2862
01:57:44,950 --> 01:57:42,880
and my point is very simple

2863
01:57:46,229 --> 01:57:44,960
everybody knows what i mean it's it's

2864
01:57:48,870 --> 01:57:46,239
too tiny

2865
01:57:50,550 --> 01:57:48,880
everybody knows and for some reason

2866
01:57:53,510 --> 01:57:50,560
we don't have answers and there's still

2867
01:57:56,470 --> 01:57:53,520
questions today about it so dealey plaza

2868
01:57:59,350 --> 01:57:56,480
is a is a really cool place to visit and

2869
01:58:02,390 --> 01:57:59,360
and just to just to look around

2870
01:58:04,390 --> 01:58:02,400
and and and answer your own questions

2871
01:58:06,470 --> 01:58:04,400
you've got to do it once

2872
01:58:08,629 --> 01:58:06,480
yeah i definitely want to go see that i

2873
01:58:12,390 --> 01:58:08,639
was supposed to go to uh

2874
01:58:14,470 --> 01:58:12,400
uh dallas uh i think it was last year uh

2875
01:58:16,149 --> 01:58:14,480
for the podcast movement i think it was

2876
01:58:17,990 --> 01:58:16,159
last year was at dallas i'm not sure

2877
01:58:20,470 --> 01:58:18,000
maybe it was this year one or the other

2878
01:58:23,510 --> 01:58:20,480
i missed both of them because of covet

2879
01:58:25,510 --> 01:58:23,520
and uh i always wanted to see that so

2880
01:58:27,990 --> 01:58:25,520
hopefully that's on the bucket list

2881
01:58:29,750 --> 01:58:28,000
and and for me if i went back in time

2882
01:58:31,750 --> 01:58:29,760
god i've said this so many times fade or

2883
01:58:33,109 --> 01:58:31,760
not i just apologize but i'm gonna say

2884
01:58:36,229 --> 01:58:33,119
it again

2885
01:58:38,070 --> 01:58:36,239
i'm going to egypt i want to i want to i

2886
01:58:39,030 --> 01:58:38,080
want to see them building their pyramids

2887
01:58:39,910 --> 01:58:39,040
yeah

2888
01:58:48,229 --> 01:58:39,920
i

2889
01:58:51,109 --> 01:58:48,239
that would be great yeah there's no

2890
01:58:52,229 --> 01:58:51,119
question about it there's a a few things

2891
01:58:54,390 --> 01:58:52,239
uh

2892
01:58:56,310 --> 01:58:54,400
in the past that that would be there but

2893
01:58:59,830 --> 01:58:56,320
for me it's the pyramids

2894
01:59:01,030 --> 01:58:59,840
i i just want to see how they did that

2895
01:59:02,629 --> 01:59:01,040
yeah that's

2896
01:59:04,870 --> 01:59:02,639
and again what i love about these

2897
01:59:06,870 --> 01:59:04,880
mysteries if you unlock one of them

2898
01:59:09,109 --> 01:59:06,880
they unlock a lot of things i mean if

2899
01:59:11,189 --> 01:59:09,119
you find out about the the pyramids you

2900
01:59:14,149 --> 01:59:11,199
could either blow the ancient aliens

2901
01:59:16,310 --> 01:59:14,159
theory out of the water or you could say

2902
01:59:17,270 --> 01:59:16,320
yeah there's something to that for sure

2903
01:59:19,830 --> 01:59:17,280
you know

2904
01:59:20,950 --> 01:59:19,840
like ghosts in the afterlife i mean i

2905
01:59:22,390 --> 01:59:20,960
think

2906
01:59:24,629 --> 01:59:22,400
if you solve one or two of these

2907
01:59:27,270 --> 01:59:24,639
mysteries the dominoes may start to fall

2908
01:59:28,950 --> 01:59:27,280
yeah and you have to have the date right

2909
01:59:31,430 --> 01:59:28,960
see that's the whole thing you have to

2910
01:59:32,870 --> 01:59:31,440
have the date right right so you go back

2911
01:59:34,790 --> 01:59:32,880
uh to the resurrection what if you

2912
01:59:36,149 --> 01:59:34,800
missed that by a hundred years

2913
01:59:38,790 --> 01:59:36,159
right and

2914
01:59:39,990 --> 01:59:38,800
it it's not happening on on the mound

2915
01:59:42,390 --> 01:59:40,000
right you go up there and there's

2916
01:59:44,950 --> 01:59:42,400
nothing on the hill but grass or you go

2917
01:59:46,470 --> 01:59:44,960
back to 2650 bc

2918
01:59:48,149 --> 01:59:46,480
to see the pyramids being built and

2919
01:59:51,109 --> 01:59:48,159
they're already there

2920
01:59:53,990 --> 01:59:51,119
right it's like wait a minute uh

2921
01:59:56,149 --> 01:59:54,000
when when when do i have to go to see

2922
01:59:57,589 --> 01:59:56,159
this happen so you have to have the date

2923
01:59:59,189 --> 01:59:57,599
correct when you go back into deep

2924
02:00:00,950 --> 01:59:59,199
history

2925
02:00:03,589 --> 02:00:00,960
and and you brought up a really good

2926
02:00:05,189 --> 02:00:03,599
point uh i'm five seconds past the

2927
02:00:08,229 --> 02:00:05,199
commercial break

2928
02:00:10,149 --> 02:00:08,239
history especially deep history is like

2929
02:00:13,270 --> 02:00:10,159
the game telephone

2930
02:00:15,189 --> 02:00:13,280
right exactly it's no different and it

2931
02:00:17,109 --> 02:00:15,199
doesn't mean that it's conspiratorial

2932
02:00:18,629 --> 02:00:17,119
necessarily it just means the nature of

2933
02:00:20,310 --> 02:00:18,639
human communication

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let's take our break right here our

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harold this is fade to black

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i love ponies i really love ponies i'm

3029
02:04:49,430 --> 02:04:47,440
serious

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02:04:51,030 --> 02:04:49,440
i couldn't stay sane without pawn needs

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02:04:53,030 --> 02:04:51,040
to brush

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02:04:59,510 --> 02:04:53,040
why fade to black

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02:05:04,310 --> 02:05:01,750
this is fade to black with jimmy church

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02:05:08,900 --> 02:05:04,320
on the game changer radio network and

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02:05:22,550 --> 02:05:08,910
kgra the global radio alliance

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02:05:24,390 --> 02:05:22,560
[Music]

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02:05:26,149 --> 02:05:24,400
welcome back fade to black i am your

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02:05:27,669 --> 02:05:26,159
host jimmy church tonight jim harold i

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02:05:30,390 --> 02:05:27,679
want to remind everybody we've got a

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02:05:32,550 --> 02:05:30,400
little programming change for the week

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02:05:34,790 --> 02:05:32,560
in that tomorrow night daryl anka is

3042
02:05:36,310 --> 02:05:34,800
here he's stopping by to talk about the

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02:05:38,629 --> 02:05:36,320
film he just

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02:05:41,270 --> 02:05:38,639
released directed and wrote it is called

3045
02:05:44,550 --> 02:05:41,280
alienated and then thursday night ryan

3046
02:05:46,709 --> 02:05:44,560
sprague we rescheduled from last night

3047
02:05:50,069 --> 02:05:46,719
and uh ryan will be with us on thursday

3048
02:05:52,310 --> 02:05:50,079
there will be no fader night okay all

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02:05:53,830 --> 02:05:52,320
right so that's what's going on for the

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02:05:57,430 --> 02:05:53,840
rest of the week but tonight is jim

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02:05:59,430 --> 02:05:57,440
harold and and jim you know i

3052
02:06:01,270 --> 02:05:59,440
for me i would

3053
02:06:03,270 --> 02:06:01,280
love to have you on for two and a half

3054
02:06:05,510 --> 02:06:03,280
hours just telling stories

3055
02:06:07,830 --> 02:06:05,520
right that that's that's just to me i

3056
02:06:11,830 --> 02:06:07,840
can't get enough of that

3057
02:06:15,109 --> 02:06:11,840
and uh not only with uh what you do

3058
02:06:17,350 --> 02:06:15,119
but you uh have collected

3059
02:06:20,550 --> 02:06:17,360
uh these stories

3060
02:06:23,430 --> 02:06:20,560
uh narrated by those who

3061
02:06:26,229 --> 02:06:23,440
experienced them themselves and like i

3062
02:06:28,149 --> 02:06:26,239
said earlier i couldn't and still can't

3063
02:06:29,270 --> 02:06:28,159
get enough of that it's about theater of

3064
02:06:32,149 --> 02:06:29,280
the mind

3065
02:06:33,830 --> 02:06:32,159
and uh one of these nights i'm not going

3066
02:06:35,990 --> 02:06:33,840
to do anything i'm not going to talk i'm

3067
02:06:38,709 --> 02:06:36,000
going to force you into

3068
02:06:39,990 --> 02:06:38,719
uh pulling out some of your best stuff

3069
02:06:42,470 --> 02:06:40,000
but uh

3070
02:06:43,350 --> 02:06:42,480
so i'm going to take this moment to just

3071
02:06:45,910 --> 02:06:43,360
say

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02:06:48,629 --> 02:06:45,920
tell me you've got something really cool

3073
02:06:50,709 --> 02:06:48,639
oh this one's cool this one's cool

3074
02:06:52,950 --> 02:06:50,719
it's short but it's cool

3075
02:06:56,390 --> 02:06:52,960
and it plays into talk radio

3076
02:06:58,550 --> 02:06:56,400
um this was a story from a

3077
02:06:59,589 --> 02:06:58,560
female caller a woman from earlier this

3078
02:07:00,550 --> 02:06:59,599
year

3079
02:07:01,350 --> 02:07:00,560
and

3080
02:07:03,669 --> 02:07:01,360
uh

3081
02:07:05,910 --> 02:07:03,679
she said that um

3082
02:07:07,430 --> 02:07:05,920
her job she would drive home from

3083
02:07:09,589 --> 02:07:07,440
overnight

3084
02:07:10,550 --> 02:07:09,599
and she used to listen to coast to coast

3085
02:07:12,950 --> 02:07:10,560
am

3086
02:07:14,229 --> 02:07:12,960
probably many times listen to you on

3087
02:07:16,790 --> 02:07:14,239
that show

3088
02:07:18,870 --> 02:07:16,800
so one night they were talking about

3089
02:07:21,350 --> 02:07:18,880
reptilians

3090
02:07:23,270 --> 02:07:21,360
uh the theory going that leaders and

3091
02:07:25,589 --> 02:07:23,280
famous people could shape-shift and

3092
02:07:26,390 --> 02:07:25,599
they're actually reptilians

3093
02:07:28,870 --> 02:07:26,400
and

3094
02:07:32,069 --> 02:07:28,880
the guest i'm not sure who it was

3095
02:07:33,990 --> 02:07:32,079
was very compelling and mary our caller

3096
02:07:36,229 --> 02:07:34,000
said she was really interested

3097
02:07:38,950 --> 02:07:36,239
so the next night she was sitting at

3098
02:07:40,790 --> 02:07:38,960
dinner with her husband

3099
02:07:42,390 --> 02:07:40,800
who is a super skeptic he doesn't

3100
02:07:45,589 --> 02:07:42,400
believe in any of this stuff

3101
02:07:47,430 --> 02:07:45,599
and uh their little toddler child in his

3102
02:07:49,430 --> 02:07:47,440
little chair playing with his peas and

3103
02:07:51,589 --> 02:07:49,440
carrots

3104
02:07:53,270 --> 02:07:51,599
so anyway um

3105
02:07:55,109 --> 02:07:53,280
they're talking about it and she's

3106
02:07:57,109 --> 02:07:55,119
making the case and saying you know

3107
02:07:59,109 --> 02:07:57,119
there might be really something to this

3108
02:08:01,109 --> 02:07:59,119
it sounds very compelling and things and

3109
02:08:03,270 --> 02:08:01,119
her husband is

3110
02:08:05,350 --> 02:08:03,280
saying you know this is ridiculous this

3111
02:08:06,870 --> 02:08:05,360
doesn't make any sense i mean if there's

3112
02:08:09,589 --> 02:08:06,880
something like this were going on it

3113
02:08:11,430 --> 02:08:09,599
would be too big to hide

3114
02:08:13,830 --> 02:08:11,440
i mean come on

3115
02:08:15,430 --> 02:08:13,840
why wouldn't we know about it if it were

3116
02:08:18,149 --> 02:08:15,440
real

3117
02:08:20,550 --> 02:08:18,159
then the little toddler chimes up and

3118
02:08:25,270 --> 02:08:20,560
says totally seriously

3119
02:08:28,069 --> 02:08:26,310
yes

3120
02:08:29,189 --> 02:08:28,079
he said people

3121
02:08:30,069 --> 02:08:29,199
not

3122
02:08:31,430 --> 02:08:30,079
ready

3123
02:08:39,750 --> 02:08:31,440
and then

3124
02:08:43,910 --> 02:08:41,830
he didn't shapeshift did he

3125
02:08:45,270 --> 02:08:43,920
no i don't think so his eyes turned into

3126
02:08:47,510 --> 02:08:45,280
hey

3127
02:08:49,510 --> 02:08:47,520
check this out right

3128
02:08:51,430 --> 02:08:49,520
she said her son's 15 now and she's

3129
02:08:53,669 --> 02:08:51,440
asked him about this he doesn't remember

3130
02:08:55,270 --> 02:08:53,679
a thing and he said that

3131
02:08:57,510 --> 02:08:55,280
they were in utter shock they tried to

3132
02:09:00,709 --> 02:08:57,520
probe him for more information

3133
02:09:02,310 --> 02:09:00,719
uh and try to get anything else and he

3134
02:09:04,470 --> 02:09:02,320
didn't answer any questions or anything

3135
02:09:06,390 --> 02:09:04,480
he said

3136
02:09:07,990 --> 02:09:06,400
but just as serious as you can please

3137
02:09:10,550 --> 02:09:08,000
people not ready

3138
02:09:14,069 --> 02:09:10,560
now uh

3139
02:09:19,030 --> 02:09:15,589
it involves a dinner table and

3140
02:09:21,910 --> 02:09:19,040
reptilians too as well so i'm having a

3141
02:09:27,350 --> 02:09:21,920
dinner party uh over at the house and

3142
02:09:28,629 --> 02:09:27,360
i've got uh a bunch of people of note

3143
02:09:29,589 --> 02:09:28,639
at the table

3144
02:09:33,109 --> 02:09:29,599
um

3145
02:09:34,790 --> 02:09:33,119
half of them you know jim okay so we're

3146
02:09:36,629 --> 02:09:34,800
sitting there and

3147
02:09:39,350 --> 02:09:36,639
having one of those dynamic uh

3148
02:09:42,149 --> 02:09:39,360
paranormal uh conversations

3149
02:09:44,390 --> 02:09:42,159
and one of the guests is a stand-up

3150
02:09:45,589 --> 02:09:44,400
comedian of note

3151
02:09:47,430 --> 02:09:45,599
and

3152
02:09:48,470 --> 02:09:47,440
he uh

3153
02:09:50,870 --> 02:09:48,480
uh

3154
02:09:53,589 --> 02:09:50,880
i'm gonna guess

3155
02:09:57,430 --> 02:09:55,430
so eight ten

3156
02:09:59,430 --> 02:09:57,440
i think there's ten of us um at the

3157
02:10:02,229 --> 02:09:59,440
dinner table

3158
02:10:04,390 --> 02:10:02,239
and uh if you've ever been to one of uh

3159
02:10:07,189 --> 02:10:04,400
you haven't but you will one day

3160
02:10:09,669 --> 02:10:07,199
uh one one of the dinner parties a lot

3161
02:10:12,470 --> 02:10:09,679
of fun and the food is really good but

3162
02:10:14,390 --> 02:10:12,480
uh i do this intentionally to stir

3163
02:10:16,470 --> 02:10:14,400
conversation and we're talking about

3164
02:10:18,069 --> 02:10:16,480
this and that and and reptilians and

3165
02:10:19,910 --> 02:10:18,079
shape-shifting comes up in the

3166
02:10:21,669 --> 02:10:19,920
conversation

3167
02:10:24,629 --> 02:10:21,679
and so

3168
02:10:25,510 --> 02:10:24,639
my friend the stand-up comedian um says

3169
02:10:27,350 --> 02:10:25,520
uh

3170
02:10:29,750 --> 02:10:27,360
well one night

3171
02:10:32,149 --> 02:10:29,760
i'm sitting on my couch with my

3172
02:10:34,629 --> 02:10:32,159
girlfriend watching a movie

3173
02:10:35,750 --> 02:10:34,639
and uh reading popcorn and doing our

3174
02:10:39,510 --> 02:10:35,760
thing

3175
02:10:41,830 --> 02:10:39,520
and and i just look over at her

3176
02:10:42,950 --> 02:10:41,840
and she shapeshifts into a reptilian in

3177
02:10:45,669 --> 02:10:42,960
front of me

3178
02:10:48,069 --> 02:10:45,679
whoa and she catches me

3179
02:10:50,550 --> 02:10:48,079
looking at her and she looks over at me

3180
02:10:52,310 --> 02:10:50,560
and she goes back to normal and she says

3181
02:10:54,229 --> 02:10:52,320
what

3182
02:10:57,270 --> 02:10:54,239
and i look at all of us at the dinner

3183
02:10:59,830 --> 02:10:57,280
table chimney wow what

3184
02:11:01,430 --> 02:10:59,840
like is he pulling my leg

3185
02:11:03,430 --> 02:11:01,440
yeah and and

3186
02:11:06,470 --> 02:11:03,440
and at this setting

3187
02:11:08,149 --> 02:11:06,480
this is not the place for bs right this

3188
02:11:12,790 --> 02:11:08,159
is right right

3189
02:11:14,629 --> 02:11:12,800
and the there was an uncomfortable

3190
02:11:16,950 --> 02:11:14,639
like two or three seconds moment of

3191
02:11:18,550 --> 02:11:16,960
silence where everybody just went holy

3192
02:11:20,550 --> 02:11:18,560
crap

3193
02:11:24,229 --> 02:11:20,560
you know he's being very serious right

3194
02:11:26,790 --> 02:11:24,239
now and and opening up uh to everybody

3195
02:11:27,910 --> 02:11:26,800
at the table and sharing this

3196
02:11:30,709 --> 02:11:27,920
with

3197
02:11:32,470 --> 02:11:30,719
this specific group

3198
02:11:35,510 --> 02:11:32,480
you are going to

3199
02:11:37,350 --> 02:11:35,520
uh lay it out and he did and it was now

3200
02:11:39,189 --> 02:11:37,360
what do you do with that right what do

3201
02:11:40,470 --> 02:11:39,199
you do well yeah

3202
02:11:42,629 --> 02:11:40,480
um

3203
02:11:43,750 --> 02:11:42,639
you know what my answer was

3204
02:11:46,709 --> 02:11:43,760
what

3205
02:11:49,270 --> 02:11:46,719
people not ready i said it

3206
02:11:51,030 --> 02:11:49,280
i said it out loud i said it out loud

3207
02:11:54,229 --> 02:11:51,040
but yeah yeah

3208
02:11:56,870 --> 02:11:54,239
have you ever seen uh staying on this

3209
02:11:58,790 --> 02:11:56,880
uh i'm sure a twitter or one of the chat

3210
02:12:02,229 --> 02:11:58,800
rooms will post the video

3211
02:12:04,870 --> 02:12:02,239
of uh i think it's obama giving a speech

3212
02:12:07,830 --> 02:12:04,880
and and he's about at the podium and

3213
02:12:09,830 --> 02:12:07,840
there's like a dinner buff you know uh

3214
02:12:12,709 --> 02:12:09,840
a set banquet setting

3215
02:12:15,350 --> 02:12:12,719
and the camera just goes out and and and

3216
02:12:16,470 --> 02:12:15,360
pans the audience but as the camera is

3217
02:12:19,669 --> 02:12:16,480
panning

3218
02:12:20,950 --> 02:12:19,679
one of his secret service guys uh turns

3219
02:12:23,430 --> 02:12:20,960
around and looks at the cat and he

3220
02:12:26,310 --> 02:12:23,440
shapeshifts into a reptilian

3221
02:12:27,189 --> 02:12:26,320
and have you seen that video i have not

3222
02:12:30,069 --> 02:12:27,199
but i

3223
02:12:31,910 --> 02:12:30,079
have you heard about the video i think i

3224
02:12:34,229 --> 02:12:31,920
heard of it but the thing is is that i'm

3225
02:12:36,390 --> 02:12:34,239
very skeptical of any kind of video

3226
02:12:38,629 --> 02:12:36,400
stuff a lot of times not saying that

3227
02:12:41,750 --> 02:12:38,639
everything that's all videos are fake

3228
02:12:44,310 --> 02:12:41,760
but for a while for a good while in fact

3229
02:12:47,109 --> 02:12:44,320
with our mutual friend micah hanks uh

3230
02:12:49,350 --> 02:12:47,119
did a video show

3231
02:12:51,910 --> 02:12:49,360
before everybody was doing video shows

3232
02:12:52,950 --> 02:12:51,920
that were different clips

3233
02:12:54,870 --> 02:12:52,960
of

3234
02:12:56,069 --> 02:12:54,880
supposedly paranormal things and and

3235
02:12:57,510 --> 02:12:56,079
part of the reason i stopped doing that

3236
02:13:00,069 --> 02:12:57,520
show was frustration because there's so

3237
02:13:02,550 --> 02:13:00,079
much fake stuff out there so

3238
02:13:04,950 --> 02:13:02,560
i personally don't think obama

3239
02:13:06,950 --> 02:13:04,960
or his secret service agents are

3240
02:13:08,550 --> 02:13:06,960
reptilians but

3241
02:13:10,870 --> 02:13:08,560
you know um

3242
02:13:12,550 --> 02:13:10,880
that's interesting i know i know and you

3243
02:13:13,430 --> 02:13:12,560
know i like anything else what do you do

3244
02:13:16,709 --> 02:13:13,440
with it

3245
02:13:19,589 --> 02:13:16,719
this video i am convinced

3246
02:13:21,189 --> 02:13:19,599
is 100 real

3247
02:13:22,629 --> 02:13:21,199
that's that i don't think that's the

3248
02:13:25,430 --> 02:13:22,639
point

3249
02:13:27,990 --> 02:13:25,440
is he actually shape-shifting into a

3250
02:13:31,109 --> 02:13:28,000
reptilian i don't think it's cg

3251
02:13:32,709 --> 02:13:31,119
no i don't i think it's just a crazy

3252
02:13:35,830 --> 02:13:32,719
camera glitch

3253
02:13:39,350 --> 02:13:35,840
at that moment with the digital and

3254
02:13:41,669 --> 02:13:39,360
it appears you know his face changes

3255
02:13:43,910 --> 02:13:41,679
right but i just think it's a digital

3256
02:13:46,069 --> 02:13:43,920
anomaly the way the sensors are picking

3257
02:13:47,830 --> 02:13:46,079
it up with the lighting in the room and

3258
02:13:49,270 --> 02:13:47,840
but the video itself no i don't think

3259
02:13:51,350 --> 02:13:49,280
it's i don't think it's i think there

3260
02:13:53,910 --> 02:13:51,360
was a video out there someone said elvis

3261
02:13:56,470 --> 02:13:53,920
was a reptilian and had some footage of

3262
02:14:00,550 --> 02:13:56,480
his eyes or something but i'm sure that

3263
02:14:02,069 --> 02:14:00,560
was fake oh that's tasty no i haven't no

3264
02:14:04,229 --> 02:14:02,079
yeah yeah it's like thank you thank you

3265
02:14:06,470 --> 02:14:04,239
very much

3266
02:14:10,390 --> 02:14:06,480
i'm a big elvis fan

3267
02:14:12,629 --> 02:14:10,400
i do i did see this was out of russia

3268
02:14:15,990 --> 02:14:12,639
speaking of reptilians

3269
02:14:19,030 --> 02:14:16,000
where this lady is it's it's russian

3270
02:14:19,910 --> 02:14:19,040
language uh tv ladies being interviewed

3271
02:14:21,270 --> 02:14:19,920
and

3272
02:14:26,950 --> 02:14:21,280
she

3273
02:14:30,069 --> 02:14:26,960
right and

3274
02:14:34,390 --> 02:14:30,079
um it's it's authentic video

3275
02:14:35,430 --> 02:14:34,400
i think she has the muscle ability

3276
02:14:38,550 --> 02:14:35,440
to

3277
02:14:40,629 --> 02:14:38,560
change the shape of her iris

3278
02:14:43,030 --> 02:14:40,639
ooh i i don't think that's creepy yeah

3279
02:14:45,669 --> 02:14:43,040
yeah yeah yeah yeah oh and

3280
02:14:49,270 --> 02:14:45,679
somebody's gonna post the video and and

3281
02:14:52,149 --> 02:14:49,280
listen when post the video and and and

3282
02:14:53,990 --> 02:14:52,159
tag jim on it in twitter so he can see

3283
02:14:55,990 --> 02:14:54,000
this we've watched it a million times

3284
02:14:57,750 --> 02:14:56,000
it's a crazy it's

3285
02:15:00,229 --> 02:14:57,760
wow it's one of the now i just think

3286
02:15:02,229 --> 02:15:00,239
it's a when when i was a kid and i want

3287
02:15:04,870 --> 02:15:02,239
to get to your next story

3288
02:15:07,510 --> 02:15:04,880
when i was a kid i'm i'm young i'm like

3289
02:15:08,870 --> 02:15:07,520
five years old and we go to

3290
02:15:11,669 --> 02:15:08,880
a carnival

3291
02:15:14,149 --> 02:15:11,679
and there is the freak show tent right

3292
02:15:16,470 --> 02:15:14,159
okay so you know in the paintings of the

3293
02:15:18,550 --> 02:15:16,480
people you know on the outside and you

3294
02:15:20,470 --> 02:15:18,560
know whatever the mermaid or you know

3295
02:15:22,790 --> 02:15:20,480
the elephant man whatever you know the

3296
02:15:24,229 --> 02:15:22,800
paintings but there was this guy named

3297
02:15:26,870 --> 02:15:24,239
popeye

3298
02:15:29,510 --> 02:15:26,880
okay all right and i see so i go in i'm

3299
02:15:31,430 --> 02:15:29,520
i'm young man i'm five

3300
02:15:33,109 --> 02:15:31,440
and i'm watching all of this stuff come

3301
02:15:35,510 --> 02:15:33,119
out and it's all pretty cool but this

3302
02:15:38,229 --> 02:15:35,520
guy comes out of the same spot bye an

3303
02:15:41,430 --> 02:15:38,239
old old uh old black guy

3304
02:15:42,629 --> 02:15:41,440
and he looks at me

3305
02:15:44,470 --> 02:15:42,639
i'm right there

3306
02:15:49,109 --> 02:15:44,480
in the front row i'm five i'm looking up

3307
02:15:50,390 --> 02:15:49,119
at this guy and his eyes pop out of his

3308
02:15:52,149 --> 02:15:50,400
don't head

3309
02:15:54,870 --> 02:15:52,159
and they come out like

3310
02:15:58,550 --> 02:15:54,880
they come out like two inches

3311
02:16:01,990 --> 02:15:58,560
and bird and and he sucks him back in

3312
02:16:04,629 --> 02:16:02,000
and i freak man i lose my mind

3313
02:16:06,950 --> 02:16:04,639
and i watch him go and now he's like

3314
02:16:08,390 --> 02:16:06,960
over here with a lady and i'm right

3315
02:16:10,709 --> 02:16:08,400
there man he's

3316
02:16:13,830 --> 02:16:10,719
five feet from me looks right at now i

3317
02:16:17,030 --> 02:16:13,840
got the side view

3318
02:16:19,669 --> 02:16:17,040
i've seen people um who can do that and

3319
02:16:21,510 --> 02:16:19,679
that's just disturbing it was cool being

3320
02:16:24,310 --> 02:16:21,520
five years old and seeing it not in the

3321
02:16:27,350 --> 02:16:24,320
video but like right there wow it was

3322
02:16:30,229 --> 02:16:27,360
great i never forgot that guy

3323
02:16:32,230 --> 02:16:30,239
popeye okay give me your next one

3324
02:16:34,629 --> 02:16:32,240
well you know one thing jimmy i try to

3325
02:16:36,870 --> 02:16:34,639
get across on the shows is to me the

3326
02:16:39,669 --> 02:16:36,880
quote paranormal in the supernatural is

3327
02:16:42,870 --> 02:16:39,679
a continuum and yes we have stories

3328
02:16:45,030 --> 02:16:42,880
about demons and scary spooky shadow

3329
02:16:46,549 --> 02:16:45,040
people and black-eyed kids

3330
02:16:49,509 --> 02:16:46,559
but then we have those reassuring

3331
02:16:50,870 --> 02:16:49,519
stories and this is this is one and it's

3332
02:16:52,629 --> 02:16:50,880
it's actually from this year and it's

3333
02:16:53,830 --> 02:16:52,639
very sad

3334
02:16:56,070 --> 02:16:53,840
on one hand

3335
02:16:57,990 --> 02:16:56,080
uh our caller siobhan her husband had

3336
02:17:00,389 --> 02:16:58,000
passed in february

3337
02:17:01,589 --> 02:17:00,399
and he was very close to their young

3338
02:17:06,790 --> 02:17:01,599
daughter

3339
02:17:08,469 --> 02:17:06,800
four when he passed and she was just

3340
02:17:09,589 --> 02:17:08,479
turning five

3341
02:17:12,469 --> 02:17:09,599
so

3342
02:17:14,549 --> 02:17:12,479
when she had this party for her daughter

3343
02:17:17,910 --> 02:17:14,559
back in may they they were going to go

3344
02:17:19,750 --> 02:17:17,920
all out and have a big barbie party

3345
02:17:21,509 --> 02:17:19,760
and every toy she got

3346
02:17:23,509 --> 02:17:21,519
was barbie themed and if i recall

3347
02:17:26,629 --> 02:17:23,519
correctly she was thinking about buying

3348
02:17:29,270 --> 02:17:26,639
her one of those big barbie dream houses

3349
02:17:30,790 --> 02:17:29,280
but um she said no no she got she got

3350
02:17:32,469 --> 02:17:30,800
plenty that's good

3351
02:17:35,030 --> 02:17:32,479
so

3352
02:17:37,270 --> 02:17:35,040
she um

3353
02:17:38,870 --> 02:17:37,280
she went to to pick her up from

3354
02:17:41,509 --> 02:17:38,880
preschool

3355
02:17:43,990 --> 02:17:41,519
and she drove by this lawn and there's a

3356
02:17:47,990 --> 02:17:44,000
bunch of toys on the lawn

3357
02:17:50,389 --> 02:17:48,000
and there's a huge barbie dream house

3358
02:17:52,549 --> 02:17:50,399
and a bunch of other toys and it says

3359
02:17:53,750 --> 02:17:52,559
free

3360
02:17:58,309 --> 02:17:53,760
so

3361
02:18:01,110 --> 02:17:58,319
that dream house

3362
02:18:04,709 --> 02:18:01,120
picked up her daughter 10 minutes later

3363
02:18:06,870 --> 02:18:04,719
drove past there's not a toy in sight

3364
02:18:08,469 --> 02:18:06,880
on the tree lawn

3365
02:18:10,469 --> 02:18:08,479
no sign

3366
02:18:11,349 --> 02:18:10,479
not even the free sign everything was

3367
02:18:12,790 --> 02:18:11,359
gone

3368
02:18:15,110 --> 02:18:12,800
when she got home

3369
02:18:16,950 --> 02:18:15,120
and looked at the dream house

3370
02:18:19,349 --> 02:18:16,960
it looked like it was

3371
02:18:21,589 --> 02:18:19,359
brand new barely been played with

3372
02:18:22,790 --> 02:18:21,599
and her thinking and i tend to think it

3373
02:18:25,030 --> 02:18:22,800
as well

3374
02:18:26,790 --> 02:18:25,040
is we know who put that dream house

3375
02:18:29,509 --> 02:18:26,800
there and it wasn't the people that

3376
02:18:31,830 --> 02:18:29,519
lived in the house it was the father who

3377
02:18:34,629 --> 02:18:31,840
had died a couple of months earlier and

3378
02:18:37,270 --> 02:18:34,639
that was his last gift to his daughter

3379
02:18:39,270 --> 02:18:37,280
that's that's what i think at least

3380
02:18:40,389 --> 02:18:39,280
that's a great story

3381
02:18:44,389 --> 02:18:40,399
yeah

3382
02:18:45,750 --> 02:18:44,399
i believe it happened exactly as

3383
02:18:48,070 --> 02:18:45,760
she said it did

3384
02:18:50,230 --> 02:18:48,080
well why would okay this was in may she

3385
02:18:51,669 --> 02:18:50,240
called me in may and told me the story

3386
02:18:55,190 --> 02:18:51,679
it had just happened

3387
02:18:57,429 --> 02:18:55,200
this woman lost her husband in february

3388
02:18:59,110 --> 02:18:57,439
why would she put salt in the wound and

3389
02:19:00,870 --> 02:18:59,120
call on the show

3390
02:19:03,110 --> 02:19:00,880
and tell me something like that unless

3391
02:19:04,950 --> 02:19:03,120
it really happened and that's the thing

3392
02:19:07,669 --> 02:19:04,960
that i really try to do with the

3393
02:19:10,469 --> 02:19:07,679
campfire is respect the callers and

3394
02:19:12,230 --> 02:19:10,479
respect their stories i think one reason

3395
02:19:13,589 --> 02:19:12,240
that the show has resonated over the

3396
02:19:15,669 --> 02:19:13,599
years

3397
02:19:16,790 --> 02:19:15,679
when shows like yours resonate

3398
02:19:18,950 --> 02:19:16,800
is

3399
02:19:20,549 --> 02:19:18,960
people know they can talk to us and tell

3400
02:19:21,830 --> 02:19:20,559
us their experiences and we're not going

3401
02:19:24,549 --> 02:19:21,840
to laugh at them

3402
02:19:26,870 --> 02:19:24,559
we're going to take them on face value

3403
02:19:28,230 --> 02:19:26,880
we might ask some questions but we're

3404
02:19:30,150 --> 02:19:28,240
always going to

3405
02:19:32,469 --> 02:19:30,160
respect the experiencer and i think

3406
02:19:33,910 --> 02:19:32,479
that's that's so so important i believe

3407
02:19:36,389 --> 02:19:33,920
siobhan's story and i believe that

3408
02:19:39,830 --> 02:19:36,399
happened and to that point

3409
02:19:41,750 --> 02:19:39,840
it's another one of those things where

3410
02:19:43,669 --> 02:19:41,760
the supernatural isn't always scary

3411
02:19:45,509 --> 02:19:43,679
sometimes it's very sweet

3412
02:19:47,429 --> 02:19:45,519
what's your uh what's your twitter

3413
02:19:49,910 --> 02:19:47,439
handle just real quick i want to do this

3414
02:19:52,469 --> 02:19:49,920
live the jim herald yeah at the gym

3415
02:19:57,110 --> 02:19:52,479
herald cat uh kaz

3416
02:19:59,429 --> 02:19:57,120
uh tag jim at uh the jim herald

3417
02:20:02,389 --> 02:19:59,439
she's got the uh russian uh

3418
02:20:03,510 --> 02:20:02,399
alien shape-shifting reptile reptilian

3419
02:20:06,309 --> 02:20:03,520
eyes

3420
02:20:09,670 --> 02:20:06,319
uh uh thing right here on youtube yeah

3421
02:20:12,710 --> 02:20:09,680
tag you know what i'll tag jim

3422
02:20:15,750 --> 02:20:12,720
i'll tag jim right now comment

3423
02:20:17,270 --> 02:20:15,760
so we're gonna do this in real time here

3424
02:20:18,550 --> 02:20:17,280
it is

3425
02:20:20,790 --> 02:20:18,560
jim

3426
02:20:22,870 --> 02:20:20,800
boom boom boom

3427
02:20:26,150 --> 02:20:22,880
at the

3428
02:20:28,150 --> 02:20:26,160
gym herald there you go and the only

3429
02:20:30,469 --> 02:20:28,160
reason that not to be presumptuous the

3430
02:20:32,230 --> 02:20:30,479
only one i did at the jim herald because

3431
02:20:33,910 --> 02:20:32,240
somebody else had jim harris yeah well

3432
02:20:34,630 --> 02:20:33,920
you got to separate yourself from the

3433
02:20:37,110 --> 02:20:34,640
other

3434
02:20:38,790 --> 02:20:37,120
the impersonators out there man i i get

3435
02:20:41,590 --> 02:20:38,800
it yeah you're going to watch this video

3436
02:20:43,030 --> 02:20:41,600
this is crazy this isn't cg i'm just

3437
02:20:46,790 --> 02:20:43,040
saying

3438
02:20:49,030 --> 02:20:46,800
it's somebody that has a a gift

3439
02:20:50,710 --> 02:20:49,040
somebody that's got a talent

3440
02:20:53,590 --> 02:20:50,720
um in this

3441
02:20:57,270 --> 02:20:53,600
um now i wanted to uh uh go back to this

3442
02:21:01,110 --> 02:20:57,280
in uh uh for just a second i i have you

3443
02:21:04,710 --> 02:21:01,120
ever seen a ghost

3444
02:21:07,830 --> 02:21:04,720
no i've not seen see it's weird because

3445
02:21:08,630 --> 02:21:07,840
my experiences are not

3446
02:21:11,190 --> 02:21:08,640
um

3447
02:21:13,270 --> 02:21:11,200
they're not like traditional my spooky

3448
02:21:15,910 --> 02:21:13,280
experiences are not traditional see a

3449
02:21:20,550 --> 02:21:18,309
one that happened to me and again my

3450
02:21:23,670 --> 02:21:20,560
things tend to be synchronicities that's

3451
02:21:25,349 --> 02:21:23,680
like my flavor of experiences

3452
02:21:27,190 --> 02:21:25,359
weird experience that happened to me a

3453
02:21:28,550 --> 02:21:27,200
few years ago

3454
02:21:31,110 --> 02:21:28,560
my mom

3455
02:21:32,790 --> 02:21:31,120
passed away in 2013 unfortunately and i

3456
02:21:34,790 --> 02:21:32,800
was at a now

3457
02:21:36,469 --> 02:21:34,800
there's a joke that goes around with

3458
02:21:38,230 --> 02:21:36,479
some of my community

3459
02:21:40,150 --> 02:21:38,240
somebody said uh

3460
02:21:42,150 --> 02:21:40,160
on this jim harold he's a millionaire

3461
02:21:44,389 --> 02:21:42,160
podcaster he can afford all his fancy

3462
02:21:46,710 --> 02:21:44,399
equipment which i laugh at

3463
02:21:48,870 --> 02:21:46,720
and um there's a joke in our community

3464
02:21:50,550 --> 02:21:48,880
about that one guy every time i say oh i

3465
02:21:52,389 --> 02:21:50,560
got a new mic or something oh see there

3466
02:21:54,630 --> 02:21:52,399
goes that millionaire again and to show

3467
02:21:56,230 --> 02:21:54,640
you what a millionaire i was at this

3468
02:21:57,270 --> 02:21:56,240
particular time i was at the dollar

3469
02:21:58,950 --> 02:21:57,280
store

3470
02:22:00,630 --> 02:21:58,960
and i was

3471
02:22:03,190 --> 02:22:00,640
buying some envelopes and stuff for the

3472
02:22:05,270 --> 02:22:03,200
business my favorite place by the way

3473
02:22:06,630 --> 02:22:05,280
hey it's a bargain it's

3474
02:22:07,910 --> 02:22:06,640
only a buck

3475
02:22:09,349 --> 02:22:07,920
so any

3476
02:22:11,750 --> 02:22:09,359
anyway

3477
02:22:13,590 --> 02:22:11,760
so i see this woman and she looks just

3478
02:22:14,950 --> 02:22:13,600
like my mom now i don't think it's my

3479
02:22:17,270 --> 02:22:14,960
mom's there's enough of a difference i

3480
02:22:18,870 --> 02:22:17,280
could tell it's not her same glasses

3481
02:22:21,270 --> 02:22:18,880
same hairstyle

3482
02:22:25,270 --> 02:22:21,280
same clothes

3483
02:22:27,429 --> 02:22:25,280
literally looked like my mom probably

3484
02:22:31,270 --> 02:22:27,439
in her mid to late 50s

3485
02:22:33,830 --> 02:22:31,280
and my mom died when she was 70.

3486
02:22:36,150 --> 02:22:33,840
she so much looked like my mom if she

3487
02:22:39,030 --> 02:22:36,160
wasn't like directly facing me and i had

3488
02:22:40,710 --> 02:22:39,040
been in the store with my actual mom

3489
02:22:42,630 --> 02:22:40,720
if we could go back in time and put that

3490
02:22:44,150 --> 02:22:42,640
woman in a storage seam i might get him

3491
02:22:46,389 --> 02:22:44,160
confused

3492
02:22:47,590 --> 02:22:46,399
looking from the back or the side

3493
02:22:49,030 --> 02:22:47,600
face to face you could tell the

3494
02:22:50,469 --> 02:22:49,040
difference but same glass the same

3495
02:22:52,230 --> 02:22:50,479
everything

3496
02:22:53,910 --> 02:22:52,240
and again some people may say this is no

3497
02:22:55,110 --> 02:22:53,920
big deal to me this is a very big deal

3498
02:22:55,990 --> 02:22:55,120
because it never happened to me in a

3499
02:22:58,070 --> 02:22:56,000
store

3500
02:22:59,910 --> 02:22:58,080
so anyway i go get my envelopes i

3501
02:23:01,830 --> 02:22:59,920
thought oh that's kind of strange

3502
02:23:04,150 --> 02:23:01,840
i walk up to the line who's in front of

3503
02:23:05,510 --> 02:23:04,160
me this woman

3504
02:23:07,510 --> 02:23:05,520
and

3505
02:23:10,550 --> 02:23:07,520
she turns around

3506
02:23:13,750 --> 02:23:10,560
and she looks at me and she holds up

3507
02:23:17,270 --> 02:23:13,760
you know a bottle of pepsi

3508
02:23:18,550 --> 02:23:17,280
and she said can you open this for me

3509
02:23:21,190 --> 02:23:18,560
now jimmy

3510
02:23:23,429 --> 02:23:21,200
i'm 52 years old

3511
02:23:25,750 --> 02:23:23,439
i've been in many stores

3512
02:23:27,349 --> 02:23:25,760
i've never and the woman paid for it by

3513
02:23:29,110 --> 02:23:27,359
the way she wasn't stealing it she was

3514
02:23:30,309 --> 02:23:29,120
in line

3515
02:23:33,830 --> 02:23:30,319
um

3516
02:23:36,230 --> 02:23:33,840
i've never had somebody hand me

3517
02:23:37,510 --> 02:23:36,240
uh a bottle of soda or pop and asked me

3518
02:23:38,710 --> 02:23:37,520
to open it

3519
02:23:41,270 --> 02:23:38,720
to me

3520
02:23:43,910 --> 02:23:41,280
that was the universe my mom god

3521
02:23:45,590 --> 02:23:43,920
whatever you want to say given me a wink

3522
02:23:47,429 --> 02:23:45,600
and a nod and saying

3523
02:23:51,910 --> 02:23:47,439
we see you

3524
02:23:54,230 --> 02:23:51,920
but other people report these beautiful

3525
02:23:55,590 --> 02:23:54,240
visitations and things

3526
02:23:57,190 --> 02:23:55,600
that's just not the way it happens to

3527
02:23:59,110 --> 02:23:57,200
bring me but it's and i've had other

3528
02:24:00,389 --> 02:23:59,120
weird synchronicities

3529
02:24:01,670 --> 02:24:00,399
kind of like this

3530
02:24:04,070 --> 02:24:01,680
um

3531
02:24:07,670 --> 02:24:04,080
that's the way it happens for me

3532
02:24:10,469 --> 02:24:07,680
i uh my mom

3533
02:24:12,550 --> 02:24:10,479
uh my mom passed away actually during a

3534
02:24:15,590 --> 02:24:12,560
fade to black broadcast

3535
02:24:16,550 --> 02:24:15,600
and uh and the strange part about that

3536
02:24:19,270 --> 02:24:16,560
was

3537
02:24:21,349 --> 02:24:19,280
um she had been in the hospital for for

3538
02:24:22,950 --> 02:24:21,359
a couple of weeks and we knew that the

3539
02:24:23,830 --> 02:24:22,960
end was near

3540
02:24:37,910 --> 02:24:23,840
and

3541
02:24:40,150 --> 02:24:37,920
day

3542
02:24:41,750 --> 02:24:40,160
and they had already resuscitated her

3543
02:24:43,830 --> 02:24:41,760
like and i'm not making this up man like

3544
02:24:45,830 --> 02:24:43,840
10 times

3545
02:24:48,309 --> 02:24:45,840
it might have been 20.

3546
02:24:50,550 --> 02:24:48,319
and and i talked to the doctors and i

3547
02:24:53,429 --> 02:24:50,560
told everybody i said man

3548
02:24:56,309 --> 02:24:53,439
keep her alive until tomorrow i'm

3549
02:24:58,309 --> 02:24:56,319
getting on a plane in the morning just

3550
02:24:59,910 --> 02:24:58,319
make sure that this happens

3551
02:25:01,910 --> 02:24:59,920
and the doctors are like man she's got

3552
02:25:03,670 --> 02:25:01,920
do not resuscitate orders and you keep

3553
02:25:07,030 --> 02:25:03,680
telling us this i said look man i'm

3554
02:25:09,270 --> 02:25:07,040
flying out okay just just do this for me

3555
02:25:11,750 --> 02:25:09,280
and my mom was like

3556
02:25:14,469 --> 02:25:11,760
jimmy just let me go man all right

3557
02:25:16,070 --> 02:25:14,479
just let me go and i said no mom come on

3558
02:25:19,590 --> 02:25:16,080
well anyway

3559
02:25:21,510 --> 02:25:19,600
i spoke to her right before the show and

3560
02:25:25,429 --> 02:25:21,520
uh

3561
02:25:26,469 --> 02:25:25,439
i went and and got on the air and and i

3562
02:25:29,190 --> 02:25:26,479
knew

3563
02:25:31,830 --> 02:25:29,200
you know that she had passed um i didn't

3564
02:25:34,630 --> 02:25:31,840
know but i just kind of felt it and then

3565
02:25:36,550 --> 02:25:34,640
um i found out after the show that she

3566
02:25:40,070 --> 02:25:36,560
passed away but anyway

3567
02:25:42,150 --> 02:25:40,080
um if anybody was going to come back

3568
02:25:45,190 --> 02:25:42,160
it would have been you know for a visit

3569
02:25:47,190 --> 02:25:45,200
it would have been my crazy ass mom

3570
02:25:48,550 --> 02:25:47,200
she was into edgar cayce and ouija

3571
02:25:50,870 --> 02:25:48,560
boards and

3572
02:25:53,349 --> 02:25:50,880
and all of these things and

3573
02:25:55,030 --> 02:25:53,359
um uh

3574
02:25:57,670 --> 02:25:55,040
nothing man

3575
02:25:59,990 --> 02:25:57,680
i got nothing i got nothing i'm a little

3576
02:26:01,670 --> 02:26:00,000
disappointed in this

3577
02:26:04,550 --> 02:26:01,680
i don't think it's e i don't think it's

3578
02:26:07,590 --> 02:26:04,560
necessarily easy for them to do this

3579
02:26:09,750 --> 02:26:07,600
i mean i don't know but i

3580
02:26:11,910 --> 02:26:09,760
i get the feeling that it's not

3581
02:26:13,349 --> 02:26:11,920
something easy there there's a great

3582
02:26:14,790 --> 02:26:13,359
story and we're probably not going to

3583
02:26:15,670 --> 02:26:14,800
have time for it

3584
02:26:17,910 --> 02:26:15,680
um

3585
02:26:18,830 --> 02:26:17,920
about the late country music singer

3586
02:26:22,070 --> 02:26:18,840
johnny

3587
02:26:23,670 --> 02:26:22,080
horton and he was friends with merle

3588
02:26:25,990 --> 02:26:23,680
kilgore who

3589
02:26:27,670 --> 02:26:26,000
wrote uh ring of fire for johnny cash

3590
02:26:28,790 --> 02:26:27,680
and went on to become hank williams jr's

3591
02:26:31,110 --> 02:26:28,800
manager

3592
02:26:32,230 --> 02:26:31,120
anyway um they both believed in the

3593
02:26:35,030 --> 02:26:32,240
afterlife

3594
02:26:36,790 --> 02:26:35,040
and they came up with a code that if one

3595
02:26:37,830 --> 02:26:36,800
died before the other they would get it

3596
02:26:41,190 --> 02:26:37,840
through

3597
02:26:44,150 --> 02:26:41,200
uh the um code was the drummer was a

3598
02:26:45,429 --> 02:26:44,160
rumor and couldn't keep the beat

3599
02:26:47,830 --> 02:26:45,439
so anyway

3600
02:26:50,790 --> 02:26:47,840
seven years ago passed seven years ago

3601
02:26:53,270 --> 02:26:50,800
passed merle kilgore is listening

3602
02:26:54,790 --> 02:26:53,280
for a baseball game on a station up in

3603
02:26:55,830 --> 02:26:54,800
new york i think it was traveling or

3604
02:26:58,309 --> 02:26:55,840
something

3605
02:26:59,990 --> 02:26:58,319
this is my vague recollection of it

3606
02:27:03,190 --> 02:27:00,000
and um

3607
02:27:05,670 --> 02:27:03,200
the baseball games reigned out

3608
02:27:07,590 --> 02:27:05,680
so um he hears a guy in a radio station

3609
02:27:09,910 --> 02:27:07,600
say of course that was

3610
02:27:12,070 --> 02:27:09,920
um or he doesn't hear it somebody else

3611
02:27:14,790 --> 02:27:12,080
hears it and i'll explain it the they

3612
02:27:16,309 --> 02:27:14,800
play ring of fire somebody is listening

3613
02:27:17,830 --> 02:27:16,319
to that station that's right listening

3614
02:27:20,389 --> 02:27:17,840
to that station for the baseball game

3615
02:27:23,670 --> 02:27:20,399
baseball games rained out

3616
02:27:25,510 --> 02:27:23,680
of course that was um merle kilgore's

3617
02:27:27,590 --> 02:27:25,520
great uh song written for johnny cash

3618
02:27:29,510 --> 02:27:27,600
ring of fire so this person in new york

3619
02:27:30,870 --> 02:27:29,520
hears that person is part of a psychic

3620
02:27:32,950 --> 02:27:30,880
group

3621
02:27:34,870 --> 02:27:32,960
and gets all the dj says get me in touch

3622
02:27:38,230 --> 02:27:34,880
with this merle kalgoor guy

3623
02:27:39,670 --> 02:27:38,240
and they get each other in touch

3624
02:27:41,270 --> 02:27:39,680
and

3625
02:27:43,349 --> 02:27:41,280
the psychic people say hey look i don't

3626
02:27:46,230 --> 02:27:43,359
know anything about country music

3627
02:27:47,830 --> 02:27:46,240
but somebody johnny has been trying to

3628
02:27:49,670 --> 02:27:47,840
contact us and get through has gotten

3629
02:27:51,670 --> 02:27:49,680
through to us and said contact merle

3630
02:27:53,270 --> 02:27:51,680
kilgore and i had no idea who merle

3631
02:27:56,950 --> 02:27:53,280
calgore was

3632
02:27:58,710 --> 02:27:56,960
and now i know it's you he said okay

3633
02:28:01,670 --> 02:27:58,720
uh and he has a message for you but it

3634
02:28:05,030 --> 02:28:01,680
doesn't make any sense and kilgore says

3635
02:28:06,710 --> 02:28:05,040
okay what is the message he said yeah it

3636
02:28:09,429 --> 02:28:06,720
really makes no sense it's

3637
02:28:10,870 --> 02:28:09,439
the drummer was a rummer and he couldn't

3638
02:28:12,790 --> 02:28:10,880
keep the beat

3639
02:28:15,030 --> 02:28:12,800
shut up

3640
02:28:18,230 --> 02:28:15,040
seven like seven or eight years this was

3641
02:28:20,070 --> 02:28:18,240
years later after he died

3642
02:28:22,389 --> 02:28:20,080
so i don't think it's easy

3643
02:28:23,910 --> 02:28:22,399
i don't think it's easy at all

3644
02:28:29,349 --> 02:28:23,920
now

3645
02:28:35,429 --> 02:28:31,990
okay i just want you to answer this

3646
02:28:38,870 --> 02:28:35,439
is it that why

3647
02:28:41,670 --> 02:28:38,880
when we communicate with these spirits

3648
02:28:44,070 --> 02:28:41,680
or or you know dead relatives or whoever

3649
02:28:44,950 --> 02:28:44,080
they are whatever you want to say

3650
02:28:48,070 --> 02:28:44,960
um

3651
02:28:49,110 --> 02:28:48,080
where they seem to be

3652
02:28:50,950 --> 02:28:49,120
lost

3653
02:28:51,830 --> 02:28:50,960
right like they don't know where they

3654
02:28:54,230 --> 02:28:51,840
are

3655
02:28:56,630 --> 02:28:54,240
that bothers me yeah yeah it bothers me

3656
02:28:58,389 --> 02:28:56,640
too what do you think is going on

3657
02:28:59,910 --> 02:28:58,399
i don't know that's one of the things

3658
02:29:01,750 --> 02:28:59,920
when they talk about you know people say

3659
02:29:03,910 --> 02:29:01,760
we have to send them to the light that

3660
02:29:06,469 --> 02:29:03,920
that seems just horrible to me

3661
02:29:08,870 --> 02:29:06,479
if somebody because i you know i believe

3662
02:29:11,190 --> 02:29:08,880
i personally believe in god i come from

3663
02:29:13,270 --> 02:29:11,200
a christian background i'm not like you

3664
02:29:15,590 --> 02:29:13,280
know i don't think i'd be anybody's like

3665
02:29:17,110 --> 02:29:15,600
poster boy christian

3666
02:29:17,990 --> 02:29:17,120
but i'd like to think

3667
02:29:20,469 --> 02:29:18,000
that

3668
02:29:22,230 --> 02:29:20,479
you know decent people meet a decent

3669
02:29:23,910 --> 02:29:22,240
fate and i hate to think that people are

3670
02:29:24,950 --> 02:29:23,920
stuck out there

3671
02:29:25,910 --> 02:29:24,960
and

3672
02:29:27,190 --> 02:29:25,920
um

3673
02:29:28,550 --> 02:29:27,200
i don't know and that's one of the

3674
02:29:30,070 --> 02:29:28,560
things it's kind of like that question

3675
02:29:32,469 --> 02:29:30,080
we had before

3676
02:29:34,790 --> 02:29:32,479
why does somebody get on that plane

3677
02:29:36,550 --> 02:29:34,800
instead of staying away why do they

3678
02:29:39,670 --> 02:29:36,560
that's one of those questions like if i

3679
02:29:41,510 --> 02:29:39,680
ever get to meet god i'm gonna say okay

3680
02:29:43,670 --> 02:29:41,520
is this true and if so if people are

3681
02:29:45,190 --> 02:29:43,680
getting stuck what is the deal and why

3682
02:29:46,389 --> 02:29:45,200
are you letting people get on planes

3683
02:29:47,670 --> 02:29:46,399
that crash

3684
02:29:49,990 --> 02:29:47,680
you know those would be some of the

3685
02:29:52,070 --> 02:29:50,000
questions i would have i don't have the

3686
02:29:55,510 --> 02:29:52,080
answers yeah and

3687
02:29:57,190 --> 02:29:55,520
there is another element um

3688
02:29:59,830 --> 02:29:57,200
uh for me

3689
02:30:01,750 --> 02:29:59,840
and it's not like and i've had so many

3690
02:30:03,510 --> 02:30:01,760
people with near-death experiences not

3691
02:30:06,630 --> 02:30:03,520
only on the show and have written books

3692
02:30:08,309 --> 02:30:06,640
but i've talked uh to them in person

3693
02:30:10,389 --> 02:30:08,319
um

3694
02:30:12,230 --> 02:30:10,399
and maybe it's my group maybe it's the

3695
02:30:14,309 --> 02:30:12,240
people that are around me but what i

3696
02:30:16,870 --> 02:30:14,319
don't hear

3697
02:30:20,630 --> 02:30:16,880
is references

3698
02:30:21,349 --> 02:30:20,640
about god or angels or the baby jesus

3699
02:30:23,910 --> 02:30:21,359
right

3700
02:30:28,070 --> 02:30:23,920
i don't i don't hear that

3701
02:30:30,230 --> 02:30:28,080
there is other things that and and are

3702
02:30:31,270 --> 02:30:30,240
repeated that we hear over and over

3703
02:30:33,590 --> 02:30:31,280
again

3704
02:30:35,990 --> 02:30:33,600
but i don't hear about you know the

3705
02:30:39,270 --> 02:30:36,000
trumpets of heaven or walking around in

3706
02:30:40,950 --> 02:30:39,280
clouds uh you know i i don't hear that

3707
02:30:43,190 --> 02:30:40,960
part of it

3708
02:30:46,150 --> 02:30:43,200
and it's it's a hard thing for me to

3709
02:30:48,550 --> 02:30:46,160
wrap my head around and try to explain

3710
02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:48,560
you know the lack of you know a hardcore

3711
02:30:53,750 --> 02:30:51,280
religious experience

3712
02:30:55,590 --> 02:30:53,760
why do you think that is

3713
02:30:56,950 --> 02:30:55,600
well what i've heard is

3714
02:30:59,349 --> 02:30:56,960
is

3715
02:31:01,429 --> 02:30:59,359
that people see the religious figure

3716
02:31:03,429 --> 02:31:01,439
that means a lot to them

3717
02:31:06,070 --> 02:31:03,439
depending on their faith that it that

3718
02:31:07,349 --> 02:31:06,080
has varied from time to time

3719
02:31:09,349 --> 02:31:07,359
um

3720
02:31:13,110 --> 02:31:09,359
a lot of times people report seeing a

3721
02:31:15,510 --> 02:31:13,120
being of light or all encompassing love

3722
02:31:17,510 --> 02:31:15,520
so maybe you know i'm not throwing out

3723
02:31:19,670 --> 02:31:17,520
the possibility that that's there

3724
02:31:21,830 --> 02:31:19,680
because i think that maybe just the way

3725
02:31:23,110 --> 02:31:21,840
we expect it you know the way we see it

3726
02:31:25,030 --> 02:31:23,120
on tv

3727
02:31:27,590 --> 02:31:25,040
it may not be exactly the way it happens

3728
02:31:28,630 --> 02:31:27,600
but i don't i still believe in a higher

3729
02:31:30,150 --> 02:31:28,640
power

3730
02:31:31,750 --> 02:31:30,160
and i'm not

3731
02:31:33,910 --> 02:31:31,760
i'm not going to walk away from that

3732
02:31:36,070 --> 02:31:33,920
right now but i don't know that it's

3733
02:31:38,630 --> 02:31:36,080
necessarily what we see on tv or what we

3734
02:31:40,630 --> 02:31:38,640
see in paintings or what we expect

3735
02:31:42,309 --> 02:31:40,640
it's probably like so much of reality

3736
02:31:44,870 --> 02:31:42,319
it's like that guy go back to the

3737
02:31:47,750 --> 02:31:44,880
keyhole in the library yeah i only see a

3738
02:31:48,950 --> 02:31:47,760
tiny slice yeah we only see a tiny slice

3739
02:31:50,070 --> 02:31:48,960
and then

3740
02:31:51,210 --> 02:31:50,080
um

3741
02:31:52,309 --> 02:31:51,220
when i hear

3742
02:31:56,469 --> 02:31:52,319
[Music]

3743
02:31:59,270 --> 02:31:56,479
the dogmatic approach from science

3744
02:32:01,270 --> 02:31:59,280
that wants to suggest

3745
02:32:03,590 --> 02:32:01,280
that the creation of the universe was a

3746
02:32:05,429 --> 02:32:03,600
chemical reaction right

3747
02:32:07,910 --> 02:32:05,439
okay

3748
02:32:10,309 --> 02:32:07,920
but who started that chemical reaction

3749
02:32:13,429 --> 02:32:10,319
that's my question right right right and

3750
02:32:14,309 --> 02:32:13,439
and i don't get it

3751
02:32:15,270 --> 02:32:14,319
where

3752
02:32:17,270 --> 02:32:15,280
um

3753
02:32:18,469 --> 02:32:17,280
somebody like i'll just say it you know

3754
02:32:20,150 --> 02:32:18,479
straight out you know somebody like

3755
02:32:22,710 --> 02:32:20,160
richard dawkins

3756
02:32:25,750 --> 02:32:22,720
is going to look straight at you and say

3757
02:32:28,389 --> 02:32:25,760
well dna was created from amino acids

3758
02:32:32,070 --> 02:32:28,399
that were on a crystal in the lake bed

3759
02:32:34,230 --> 02:32:32,080
and uh you know struck by lightning and

3760
02:32:35,270 --> 02:32:34,240
we're here

3761
02:32:40,590 --> 02:32:35,280
no

3762
02:32:42,230 --> 02:32:40,600
i mean

3763
02:32:45,429 --> 02:32:42,240
exactly

3764
02:32:48,309 --> 02:32:45,439
and and and um now

3765
02:32:50,950 --> 02:32:48,319
is this uh

3766
02:32:52,630 --> 02:32:50,960
supreme being whatever you want to

3767
02:32:55,910 --> 02:32:52,640
define it as

3768
02:32:58,710 --> 02:32:55,920
um this is an intelligence that predates

3769
02:33:01,190 --> 02:32:58,720
us and the universe as we know it and

3770
02:33:02,469 --> 02:33:01,200
it's probably out there doing the same

3771
02:33:05,030 --> 02:33:02,479
thing

3772
02:33:09,590 --> 02:33:05,040
all over space and time you know another

3773
02:33:15,429 --> 02:33:11,990
you know and making these things happen

3774
02:33:16,389 --> 02:33:15,439
and and that's us here because i don't

3775
02:33:19,110 --> 02:33:16,399
think

3776
02:33:21,429 --> 02:33:19,120
that it's a numbers game where

3777
02:33:23,910 --> 02:33:21,439
it just happened by chance

3778
02:33:27,110 --> 02:33:23,920
there has to be some kind of

3779
02:33:30,309 --> 02:33:27,120
a divine call it what you will um

3780
02:33:32,389 --> 02:33:30,319
a creation and thought pattern uh to

3781
02:33:35,349 --> 02:33:32,399
this process

3782
02:33:38,230 --> 02:33:35,359
but science doesn't want to go there

3783
02:33:39,750 --> 02:33:38,240
and and i i have issues with that jim i

3784
02:33:42,950 --> 02:33:39,760
i really do and i

3785
02:33:45,590 --> 02:33:42,960
call it god call it whatever you want

3786
02:33:47,990 --> 02:33:45,600
but it's it's not chance that we are

3787
02:33:50,630 --> 02:33:48,000
here

3788
02:33:52,469 --> 02:33:50,640
i don't think it's chance i think and

3789
02:33:55,200 --> 02:33:52,479
again i i hate to say this but it's not

3790
02:33:56,630 --> 02:33:55,210
even faith to me it's just common sense

3791
02:33:58,790 --> 02:33:56,640
[Laughter]

3792
02:34:00,469 --> 02:33:58,800
i look as common sense

3793
02:34:02,309 --> 02:34:00,479
is that you know

3794
02:34:04,950 --> 02:34:02,319
we just don't you know things just don't

3795
02:34:07,030 --> 02:34:04,960
come from nothing something

3796
02:34:08,389 --> 02:34:07,040
something caused it so i

3797
02:34:09,830 --> 02:34:08,399
and some people think it's a computer

3798
02:34:11,750 --> 02:34:09,840
simulation

3799
02:34:13,270 --> 02:34:11,760
and i go back to the keyhole in the

3800
02:34:15,990 --> 02:34:13,280
library

3801
02:34:19,990 --> 02:34:16,000
again and again yeah and uh one last

3802
02:34:23,190 --> 02:34:20,000
thing i i totally ignored the subject of

3803
02:34:23,830 --> 02:34:23,200
uh ufos tonight uh we just didn't get to

3804
02:34:26,469 --> 02:34:23,840
it

3805
02:34:27,670 --> 02:34:26,479
but i just wanted your opinion on you've

3806
02:34:30,870 --> 02:34:27,680
been doing

3807
02:34:33,830 --> 02:34:30,880
uh your show now again going on 17 years

3808
02:34:35,830 --> 02:34:33,840
that is incredible to me

3809
02:34:38,710 --> 02:34:35,840
but you've seen a lot of things happen

3810
02:34:41,110 --> 02:34:38,720
uh in the last 17 years and and before

3811
02:34:44,630 --> 02:34:41,120
that too as well but here we find

3812
02:34:46,550 --> 02:34:44,640
ourselves uh all of these fantastical

3813
02:34:47,910 --> 02:34:46,560
uh subjects that we have been talking

3814
02:34:49,830 --> 02:34:47,920
about over the years that have been

3815
02:34:52,150 --> 02:34:49,840
ignored by the media and the government

3816
02:34:54,950 --> 02:34:52,160
and everything else where suddenly

3817
02:34:58,389 --> 02:34:54,960
it's uh it's mainstream

3818
02:35:00,150 --> 02:34:58,399
and and ufos and uaps and et and the

3819
02:35:02,790 --> 02:35:00,160
reality of that

3820
02:35:05,510 --> 02:35:02,800
is is now front and center

3821
02:35:07,750 --> 02:35:05,520
what do you make about it are we at a

3822
02:35:09,590 --> 02:35:07,760
strange crossroads right now for this

3823
02:35:11,990 --> 02:35:09,600
planet

3824
02:35:13,590 --> 02:35:12,000
i feel there's some people who want to

3825
02:35:16,230 --> 02:35:13,600
bring out more and i think there's other

3826
02:35:19,030 --> 02:35:16,240
people who want to resist it for example

3827
02:35:21,670 --> 02:35:19,040
the fact that the report dropped at

3828
02:35:23,590 --> 02:35:21,680
about 4 30 or 5 o'clock eastern on a

3829
02:35:24,389 --> 02:35:23,600
friday tells you somebody wants to bury

3830
02:35:25,590 --> 02:35:24,399
it

3831
02:35:27,830 --> 02:35:25,600
right there

3832
02:35:29,830 --> 02:35:27,840
because you do not release something

3833
02:35:32,630 --> 02:35:29,840
that you want to publicize

3834
02:35:34,150 --> 02:35:32,640
at five on a friday that's somebody when

3835
02:35:35,190 --> 02:35:34,160
you say oh they'll forget about it by

3836
02:35:37,830 --> 02:35:35,200
monday

3837
02:35:40,389 --> 02:35:37,840
so that to me proves

3838
02:35:41,670 --> 02:35:40,399
that at least some people for whatever

3839
02:35:44,469 --> 02:35:41,680
reason

3840
02:35:46,469 --> 02:35:44,479
don't want to have this discussion

3841
02:35:48,710 --> 02:35:46,479
i also think there might be some people

3842
02:35:50,710 --> 02:35:48,720
out there who want us to have that

3843
02:35:53,349 --> 02:35:50,720
discussion and maybe there is a push and

3844
02:35:55,190 --> 02:35:53,359
a paul internally

3845
02:35:57,190 --> 02:35:55,200
in terms of the government of getting

3846
02:35:59,030 --> 02:35:57,200
that information out

3847
02:36:00,630 --> 02:35:59,040
i don't think we'll ever know the truth

3848
02:36:02,070 --> 02:36:00,640
but

3849
02:36:03,830 --> 02:36:02,080
you know i didn't think we'd come this

3850
02:36:05,910 --> 02:36:03,840
far either and a lot of things have

3851
02:36:07,510 --> 02:36:05,920
changed over the last four or five years

3852
02:36:08,870 --> 02:36:07,520
with the new york times stories and so

3853
02:36:12,150 --> 02:36:08,880
forth

3854
02:36:14,389 --> 02:36:12,160
so maybe we are a step closer but every

3855
02:36:16,790 --> 02:36:14,399
step is going to be slow

3856
02:36:19,590 --> 02:36:16,800
and it's going to be plotted out

3857
02:36:20,630 --> 02:36:19,600
yeah would it surprise you

3858
02:36:26,389 --> 02:36:20,640
if

3859
02:36:29,349 --> 02:36:26,399
what wasn't in the

3860
02:36:31,750 --> 02:36:29,359
report on june 25th was

3861
02:36:34,070 --> 02:36:31,760
a direct reference to e.t right it

3862
02:36:36,950 --> 02:36:34,080
wasn't there would it surprise you if

3863
02:36:40,389 --> 02:36:36,960
there is something more direct if not

3864
02:36:45,830 --> 02:36:42,150
it would surprise me if it came from

3865
02:36:48,150 --> 02:36:45,840
official channels yes but again

3866
02:36:50,630 --> 02:36:48,160
it could happen i didn't think we would

3867
02:36:52,950 --> 02:36:50,640
we would see this because uh i remember

3868
02:36:55,510 --> 02:36:52,960
going to a ufo meeting uh where there

3869
02:36:56,950 --> 02:36:55,520
was a prominent ufo speaker about seven

3870
02:36:58,309 --> 02:36:56,960
or eight years ago

3871
02:37:00,950 --> 02:36:58,319
maybe nine years ago here in the

3872
02:37:03,190 --> 02:37:00,960
cleveland area and i brought down and

3873
02:37:04,870 --> 02:37:03,200
even then i was in my early 40s i

3874
02:37:07,910 --> 02:37:04,880
brought down the average age in the room

3875
02:37:09,590 --> 02:37:07,920
25 years so i thought oh this ufo

3876
02:37:10,950 --> 02:37:09,600
subject is going to go by the boards

3877
02:37:12,870 --> 02:37:10,960
because

3878
02:37:14,950 --> 02:37:12,880
younger people are not interested in it

3879
02:37:16,950 --> 02:37:14,960
because nothing has happened and here we

3880
02:37:18,710 --> 02:37:16,960
go everybody's interested in it so i've

3881
02:37:21,349 --> 02:37:18,720
been wrong before

3882
02:37:23,349 --> 02:37:21,359
but i think people who have those that

3883
02:37:25,830 --> 02:37:23,359
information and have those secrets and

3884
02:37:27,190 --> 02:37:25,840
know that information are going to part

3885
02:37:29,030 --> 02:37:27,200
with it

3886
02:37:32,550 --> 02:37:29,040
very

3887
02:37:35,110 --> 02:37:32,560
yeah yeah i don't think there's any

3888
02:37:37,429 --> 02:37:35,120
question about that i i'm surprised too

3889
02:37:41,110 --> 02:37:37,439
i share that surprise with you

3890
02:37:42,309 --> 02:37:41,120
that i it it came on fast and it came on

3891
02:37:44,710 --> 02:37:42,319
strong

3892
02:37:47,270 --> 02:37:44,720
and we just have to ask ourselves why

3893
02:37:48,469 --> 02:37:47,280
and and we don't know why why

3894
02:37:49,510 --> 02:37:48,479
is it

3895
02:37:52,230 --> 02:37:49,520
uh

3896
02:37:55,110 --> 02:37:52,240
it's almost status quo right it's it's

3897
02:37:56,950 --> 02:37:55,120
like ufos have become the new normal

3898
02:37:59,429 --> 02:37:56,960
yeah and and you have to ask yourself

3899
02:38:02,070 --> 02:37:59,439
why there's there's a reason for it

3900
02:38:05,030 --> 02:38:02,080
and there's a hundred of those reasons i

3901
02:38:07,670 --> 02:38:05,040
just don't know which one it is jim um

3902
02:38:10,910 --> 02:38:07,680
uh we've got all of your websites up i

3903
02:38:13,670 --> 02:38:10,920
would uh i'm gonna ask you but is it jim

3904
02:38:15,429 --> 02:38:13,680
harold.com is that that is the place to

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02:38:18,070 --> 02:38:15,439
go that's the

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02:38:20,710 --> 02:38:18,080
central newly redesigned i might say jim

3907
02:38:23,110 --> 02:38:20,720
harold.com and that's where you'll find

3908
02:38:25,750 --> 02:38:23,120
all the links to the paranormal podcast

3909
02:38:28,870 --> 02:38:25,760
jim harold's campfire and my daughter's

3910
02:38:32,389 --> 02:38:28,880
new podcast unpleasant dreams

3911
02:38:34,950 --> 02:38:32,399
which uh she covered the eliza lamb case

3912
02:38:37,270 --> 02:38:34,960
uh lisa lam case which is very sad and

3913
02:38:39,590 --> 02:38:37,280
also black eyed kids so people want to

3914
02:38:42,870 --> 02:38:39,600
check that out too we're expanding the

3915
02:38:45,510 --> 02:38:42,880
network now uh you've uh you've been in

3916
02:38:47,670 --> 02:38:45,520
a pretty heavy production lately you've

3917
02:38:49,349 --> 02:38:47,680
got a lot of uh stuff that's coming out

3918
02:38:51,190 --> 02:38:49,359
do you have a specific day of the week

3919
02:38:52,070 --> 02:38:51,200
that you launch is it every day of the

3920
02:38:53,750 --> 02:38:52,080
week

3921
02:38:56,870 --> 02:38:53,760
when do when does the new stuff get

3922
02:38:59,670 --> 02:38:56,880
posted well right now the the uh the new

3923
02:39:01,990 --> 02:38:59,680
schedule is monday is unpleasant dreams

3924
02:39:03,830 --> 02:39:02,000
tuesday's paranormal podcast

3925
02:39:05,590 --> 02:39:03,840
thursday's jim harold's campfire and

3926
02:39:07,510 --> 02:39:05,600
then sprinkled in

3927
02:39:10,630 --> 02:39:07,520
uh various times of the week are the

3928
02:39:13,590 --> 02:39:10,640
plus club only shows because i do eight

3929
02:39:16,550 --> 02:39:13,600
episodes a month of exclusive episodes

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02:39:18,389 --> 02:39:16,560
just for our plus uh club people but i

3931
02:39:20,950 --> 02:39:18,399
never steer new people to the plus club

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02:39:23,510 --> 02:39:20,960
i say get all that free stuff you can

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jim harold.com we always have new

3934
02:39:29,110 --> 02:39:26,000
free episodes every single week

3935
02:39:31,030 --> 02:39:29,120
and if you really like it then yeah sure

3936
02:39:33,030 --> 02:39:31,040
but but go to get that free stuff

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02:39:36,070 --> 02:39:33,040
anywhere you listen to podcasts just

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02:39:39,670 --> 02:39:36,080
look for jim harold h-a-r-o-l-d

3939
02:39:42,230 --> 02:39:39,680
and uh you'll find me uh i'm just gonna

3940
02:39:43,510 --> 02:39:42,240
let everybody know i could not take my

3941
02:39:45,429 --> 02:39:43,520
eyes off

3942
02:39:48,309 --> 02:39:45,439
of his microphone all night i didn't

3943
02:39:50,230 --> 02:39:48,319
even look at your face

3944
02:39:53,030 --> 02:39:50,240
well i don't blame you for that

3945
02:39:56,070 --> 02:39:53,040
jim harold thank you so much my friend

3946
02:39:58,469 --> 02:39:56,080
uh again congratulations and continued

3947
02:39:59,349 --> 02:39:58,479
his success thank you so much thank you

3948
02:40:02,389 --> 02:39:59,359
sir

3949
02:40:04,630 --> 02:40:02,399
jim harold again everybody all of his

3950
02:40:07,550 --> 02:40:04,640
links are over at jimmychurchradio.com

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jim harold.com jim haroldplus.com

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greattvpodcast.com

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soulmatestoriespodcast.com it's all

3954
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right there over at jimmy church radio

3955
02:40:18,150 --> 02:40:16,000
jim enjoy the rest of your night all the

3956
02:40:19,510 --> 02:40:18,160
best my friend thank you so much thank

3957
02:40:21,190 --> 02:40:19,520
you sir

3958
02:40:23,670 --> 02:40:21,200
jim harold i'm going to take a quick

3959
02:40:25,030 --> 02:40:23,680
break and come back to some open lines

3960
02:40:27,190 --> 02:40:25,040
this is fade to black i'm here with

3961
02:40:29,880 --> 02:40:27,200
jimmy church stay with me i'll be right

3962
02:40:44,389 --> 02:40:29,890
back after this short break

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02:40:46,710 --> 02:40:44,399
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welcome back fade to black i am your

4053
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host jimmy church

4054
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i want to thank jim harold hey just

4055
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just incredible and it's uh

4056
02:45:49,670 --> 02:45:48,800
for me it is such a a pleasure

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02:45:56,710 --> 02:45:49,680
to

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for me i can just just sit and talk

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and uh just an incredible conversation

4060
02:46:04,070 --> 02:46:01,120
and uh and thank you so much for that

4061
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jim and and here he is

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uh tweeting now and hanging out with you

4063
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peter knots

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02:46:13,190 --> 02:46:11,760
and uh after a very long night and he's

4065
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on the east coast thank you so much for

4066
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that jim and i hope you're listening uh

4067
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again thank you

4068
02:46:24,790 --> 02:46:19,439
um i wanted to uh before i get to the

4069
02:46:29,990 --> 02:46:28,870
i mentioned earlier uh the the john of

4070
02:46:32,630 --> 02:46:30,000
god

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uh

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series it's four episodes it's on

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netflix

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um

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uh and recommended its viewing i think

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everybody should go check it out

4077
02:46:44,710 --> 02:46:42,640
and

4078
02:46:46,389 --> 02:46:44,720
there there was a weird

4079
02:46:49,830 --> 02:46:46,399
thing um

4080
02:46:51,990 --> 02:46:49,840
that happened uh to me about you know

4081
02:46:53,830 --> 02:46:52,000
concerning john of god and this was a

4082
02:46:56,230 --> 02:46:53,840
number of years ago

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02:46:57,750 --> 02:46:56,240
and uh

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02:47:00,950 --> 02:46:57,760
uh

4085
02:47:03,590 --> 02:47:00,960
somebody that i know um

4086
02:47:06,870 --> 02:47:03,600
uh that i was hanging out with went down

4087
02:47:09,030 --> 02:47:06,880
to brazil and uh to see john have got

4088
02:47:11,190 --> 02:47:09,040
multiple trips by the way

4089
02:47:13,429 --> 02:47:11,200
they had just gotten back and

4090
02:47:16,309 --> 02:47:13,439
and talking it was pretty fascinated so

4091
02:47:18,150 --> 02:47:16,319
what you know what you know i know about

4092
02:47:19,750 --> 02:47:18,160
him i've read some things but what's

4093
02:47:21,590 --> 02:47:19,760
going on well you know he does this and

4094
02:47:22,710 --> 02:47:21,600
he does these surgeries and does

4095
02:47:25,429 --> 02:47:22,720
surgeries

4096
02:47:27,110 --> 02:47:25,439
yeah but you know uh uh

4097
02:47:28,790 --> 02:47:27,120
you know

4098
02:47:29,750 --> 02:47:28,800
how could somebody call himself john of

4099
02:47:32,150 --> 02:47:29,760
god

4100
02:47:33,670 --> 02:47:32,160
right so there was that part of it you

4101
02:47:35,670 --> 02:47:33,680
know i thought that that was

4102
02:47:36,710 --> 02:47:35,680
extremely pretentious you know i don't

4103
02:47:39,750 --> 02:47:36,720
think that

4104
02:47:41,510 --> 02:47:39,760
anybody should be doing that but anyway

4105
02:47:42,790 --> 02:47:41,520
so um

4106
02:47:47,190 --> 02:47:42,800
and

4107
02:47:48,790 --> 02:47:47,200
there was things got a little bit

4108
02:47:50,710 --> 02:47:48,800
standoffish

4109
02:47:53,510 --> 02:47:50,720
well um

4110
02:47:56,630 --> 02:47:53,520
a couple of years go by

4111
02:47:58,389 --> 02:47:56,640
and uh i mentioned he gets arrested this

4112
02:48:00,790 --> 02:47:58,399
is 2018

4113
02:48:03,750 --> 02:48:00,800
and i read

4114
02:48:06,070 --> 02:48:03,760
the news about this on on fade to black

4115
02:48:08,150 --> 02:48:06,080
and i immediately

4116
02:48:10,630 --> 02:48:08,160
got an email from this person how can

4117
02:48:11,750 --> 02:48:10,640
you do how can you report it's all a lie

4118
02:48:12,950 --> 02:48:11,760
it's all

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02:48:15,429 --> 02:48:12,960
it's like

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02:48:17,110 --> 02:48:15,439
slow down for a second

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02:48:19,750 --> 02:48:17,120
i'm just

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02:48:21,269 --> 02:48:19,760
reporting the news

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02:48:22,590 --> 02:48:21,279
he got arrested

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02:48:25,670 --> 02:48:22,600
there's

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02:48:27,269 --> 02:48:25,680
338 women or whatever it was that have

4126
02:48:28,630 --> 02:48:27,279
come forward

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um

4128
02:48:35,990 --> 02:48:32,960
but anyway

4129
02:48:37,349 --> 02:48:36,000
um and this email exchange went down

4130
02:48:38,230 --> 02:48:37,359
this is somebody that i was pretty close

4131
02:48:42,070 --> 02:48:38,240
to

4132
02:48:43,349 --> 02:48:42,080
um went down and

4133
02:48:45,269 --> 02:48:43,359
this person said you know i'm never

4134
02:48:47,269 --> 02:48:45,279
going to speak to you again

4135
02:48:49,590 --> 02:48:47,279
and i was like what

4136
02:48:51,910 --> 02:48:49,600
over john of god

4137
02:48:53,590 --> 02:48:51,920
i don't care about your experiences or

4138
02:48:55,510 --> 02:48:53,600
anything else but

4139
02:48:59,030 --> 02:48:55,520
you know and it was like that having

4140
02:49:01,190 --> 02:48:59,040
spoken to this person since uh 2018

4141
02:49:04,550 --> 02:49:01,200
we're now in 2021

4142
02:49:07,030 --> 02:49:04,560
and so i realized in watching this uh

4143
02:49:08,469 --> 02:49:07,040
documentary these these uh it's a

4144
02:49:11,110 --> 02:49:08,479
four-parter

4145
02:49:14,870 --> 02:49:11,120
um i kept going back

4146
02:49:17,910 --> 02:49:14,880
to these conversations that i had with

4147
02:49:19,110 --> 02:49:17,920
this specific person and others

4148
02:49:22,309 --> 02:49:19,120
um

4149
02:49:25,030 --> 02:49:22,319
about this so i realize

4150
02:49:27,429 --> 02:49:25,040
that there are

4151
02:49:29,750 --> 02:49:27,439
people out there that

4152
02:49:30,100 --> 02:49:29,760
that follow john of god

4153
02:49:31,269 --> 02:49:30,110
um

4154
02:49:33,990 --> 02:49:31,279
[Music]

4155
02:49:37,030 --> 02:49:34,000
i think that everybody should watch this

4156
02:49:42,389 --> 02:49:37,040
documentary save your emails

4157
02:49:44,630 --> 02:49:42,399
um but i went and and and watched

4158
02:49:47,269 --> 02:49:44,640
the before and after

4159
02:49:48,710 --> 02:49:47,279
of uh of everything that is presented in

4160
02:49:51,990 --> 02:49:48,720
this documentary

4161
02:49:54,389 --> 02:49:52,000
and and i like documentaries like this

4162
02:49:56,710 --> 02:49:54,399
i like the black and white of of the

4163
02:49:59,030 --> 02:49:56,720
world where you can just go and

4164
02:50:00,790 --> 02:49:59,040
and look at something not necessarily a

4165
02:50:04,790 --> 02:50:00,800
drama look

4166
02:50:05,990 --> 02:50:04,800
i'm watching loki right now um

4167
02:50:09,510 --> 02:50:06,000
disney

4168
02:50:12,550 --> 02:50:09,520
marvel love it love it it's great too a

4169
02:50:15,429 --> 02:50:12,560
lot of time travel in this uh tv series

4170
02:50:18,230 --> 02:50:15,439
but for me it's about documentaries

4171
02:50:20,070 --> 02:50:18,240
and and i like to see things presented

4172
02:50:21,349 --> 02:50:20,080
and in this case it happens to be about

4173
02:50:25,590 --> 02:50:21,359
john of god

4174
02:50:27,190 --> 02:50:25,600
all right okay so with that uh let's uh

4175
02:50:29,110 --> 02:50:27,200
let's get to some of these calls i'm

4176
02:50:31,349 --> 02:50:29,120
putting you on hold you're listening to

4177
02:50:32,389 --> 02:50:31,359
my voice right now

4178
02:50:34,950 --> 02:50:32,399
okay

4179
02:50:37,590 --> 02:50:34,960
let's uh oh man we're at the end of the

4180
02:50:39,750 --> 02:50:37,600
show we got to make these these calls

4181
02:50:43,349 --> 02:50:39,760
quick turn some of the zombies and

4182
02:50:45,990 --> 02:50:43,359
they're saying oh oh oh oh see that's me

4183
02:50:48,630 --> 02:50:46,000
and so whoever was on hold

4184
02:50:50,389 --> 02:50:48,640
hasn't been listen oh wait a minute

4185
02:50:53,429 --> 02:50:50,399
that's on me where's that coming from

4186
02:50:59,349 --> 02:50:56,309
okay something is live

4187
02:51:02,550 --> 02:50:59,359
in this video feed hold on for a second

4188
02:51:05,190 --> 02:51:02,560
i've got to figure out what's going on i

4189
02:51:07,510 --> 02:51:05,200
think it's here okay

4190
02:51:13,030 --> 02:51:07,520
oh no it's still live

4191
02:51:15,830 --> 02:51:14,389
hi you're live on fade to black who's

4192
02:51:17,750 --> 02:51:15,840
calling

4193
02:51:20,630 --> 02:51:17,760
hi jeremy my name is randy good evening

4194
02:51:23,110 --> 02:51:20,640
too hi randy how are you

4195
02:51:25,349 --> 02:51:23,120
good calling from chicago i had two

4196
02:51:26,389 --> 02:51:25,359
incidents i had to tell you about

4197
02:51:27,190 --> 02:51:26,399
that

4198
02:51:49,830 --> 02:51:27,200
i

4199
02:51:51,110 --> 02:51:49,840
to get better he had cancer

4200
02:51:56,469 --> 02:51:51,120
and

4201
02:51:59,349 --> 02:51:56,479
to mass

4202
02:52:02,070 --> 02:51:59,359
they he told them that when you come

4203
02:52:06,070 --> 02:52:02,080
back i will not be here

4204
02:52:07,750 --> 02:52:06,080
grandpa says everything will be okay

4205
02:52:11,429 --> 02:52:07,760
when they came back from church he had

4206
02:52:17,510 --> 02:52:14,790
and when i saw him the day before he

4207
02:52:19,349 --> 02:52:17,520
died he says i'll be seeing you around

4208
02:52:21,030 --> 02:52:19,359
have a good life

4209
02:52:23,590 --> 02:52:21,040
wow

4210
02:52:28,070 --> 02:52:26,150
no he had cancer of the knee and at that

4211
02:52:32,150 --> 02:52:28,080
time it was very hard this was going

4212
02:52:33,910 --> 02:52:32,160
back to 1979 1980

4213
02:52:36,389 --> 02:52:33,920
and we were like brothers we went to

4214
02:52:38,469 --> 02:52:36,399
grammar school high school right he was

4215
02:52:40,790 --> 02:52:38,479
the best man of my wedding he was like a

4216
02:52:44,230 --> 02:52:40,800
brother more than a brother to me did he

4217
02:52:45,349 --> 02:52:44,240
come back did he come back and say hello

4218
02:52:51,349 --> 02:52:45,359
no

4219
02:52:52,870 --> 02:52:51,359
but that would be the best thing in my

4220
02:52:55,269 --> 02:52:52,880
life he

4221
02:52:55,830 --> 02:52:55,279
he probably

4222
02:52:57,750 --> 02:52:55,840
you will

4223
02:52:59,269 --> 02:52:57,760
know maybe tonight maybe he's listening

4224
02:53:02,550 --> 02:52:59,279
see that's a they

4225
02:53:05,030 --> 02:53:02,560
don't ignore things man

4226
02:53:07,670 --> 02:53:05,040
the other one no definitely not

4227
02:53:09,670 --> 02:53:07,680
and when my mother-in-law passed away

4228
02:53:11,910 --> 02:53:09,680
seven years ago

4229
02:53:15,590 --> 02:53:11,920
she died in her bedroom in her home and

4230
02:53:16,790 --> 02:53:15,600
my wife asked me to go back to

4231
02:53:18,070 --> 02:53:16,800
her room

4232
02:53:20,630 --> 02:53:18,080
to collect

4233
02:53:22,070 --> 02:53:20,640
a piece of jewelry that my wife swore

4234
02:53:24,230 --> 02:53:22,080
she had taken

4235
02:53:26,150 --> 02:53:24,240
for her to be dressed for her funeral

4236
02:53:27,590 --> 02:53:26,160
awake meaning my mother-in-law who

4237
02:53:31,030 --> 02:53:27,600
passed

4238
02:53:34,950 --> 02:53:31,040
and i went she said it's there i went

4239
02:53:36,790 --> 02:53:34,960
through that whole bedroom every drawer

4240
02:53:39,670 --> 02:53:36,800
could not find us

4241
02:53:44,150 --> 02:53:39,680
i was not going back gone my wife

4242
02:53:47,030 --> 02:53:45,750
go ahead i was gonna say what's your

4243
02:53:50,830 --> 02:53:47,040
name

4244
02:53:54,469 --> 02:53:50,840
randy randy randy in chicago

4245
02:53:57,349 --> 02:53:54,479
right and uh well uh before i let you go

4246
02:53:59,349 --> 02:53:57,359
you know why i was born in chicago

4247
02:54:01,990 --> 02:53:59,359
yep yeah you're a homie like me

4248
02:54:03,830 --> 02:54:02,000
definitely love that town man i love

4249
02:54:06,630 --> 02:54:03,840
that

4250
02:54:08,950 --> 02:54:06,640
on the cpd there before i met my wife no

4251
02:54:10,950 --> 02:54:08,960
that was 30 years ago

4252
02:54:13,030 --> 02:54:10,960
randy have a great night and we'll see

4253
02:54:15,910 --> 02:54:13,040
you tomorrow night right here

4254
02:54:17,590 --> 02:54:15,920
thank you my friend thank you that's uh

4255
02:54:18,870 --> 02:54:17,600
that's a great story somebody knew

4256
02:54:21,110 --> 02:54:18,880
something

4257
02:54:22,870 --> 02:54:21,120
yeah i don't uh

4258
02:54:24,389 --> 02:54:22,880
uh

4259
02:54:26,469 --> 02:54:24,399
that's a great story that's a great

4260
02:54:30,870 --> 02:54:26,479
story okay you stay right there

4261
02:54:33,670 --> 02:54:30,880
uh let's see who i can squeeze in

4262
02:54:34,950 --> 02:54:33,680
got a lot of calls very little time hi

4263
02:54:36,790 --> 02:54:34,960
you're live on fade to black who's

4264
02:54:39,349 --> 02:54:36,800
calling

4265
02:54:42,150 --> 02:54:39,359
jimmy church brian omaha how you doing

4266
02:54:45,990 --> 02:54:42,160
man hey brian how are you sir

4267
02:54:46,870 --> 02:54:46,000
i'm great i'm great hey uh john of god

4268
02:54:50,950 --> 02:54:46,880
yeah

4269
02:54:53,030 --> 02:54:50,960
uh i had a chris i was in a uh crystal

4270
02:54:55,429 --> 02:54:53,040
shop

4271
02:54:57,990 --> 02:54:55,439
i want to say it was like a year ago

4272
02:55:00,550 --> 02:54:58,000
and uh they were unboxing

4273
02:55:03,590 --> 02:55:00,560
some uh some stuff on the counter i was

4274
02:55:05,269 --> 02:55:03,600
across the room and i saw like

4275
02:55:08,230 --> 02:55:05,279
light like shining

4276
02:55:10,230 --> 02:55:08,240
like across the room from this box

4277
02:55:11,510 --> 02:55:10,240
i went over there and i'm like are those

4278
02:55:14,230 --> 02:55:11,520
for sale

4279
02:55:15,510 --> 02:55:14,240
he was just unboxing them

4280
02:55:18,230 --> 02:55:15,520
and uh

4281
02:55:20,150 --> 02:55:18,240
it was uh he was like absolutely and

4282
02:55:21,510 --> 02:55:20,160
you know set it on the table it was a

4283
02:55:23,110 --> 02:55:21,520
quartz

4284
02:55:25,349 --> 02:55:23,120
crystal

4285
02:55:28,630 --> 02:55:25,359
probably about the size of your fist and

4286
02:55:33,030 --> 02:55:28,640
it was just polished and beautiful

4287
02:55:34,389 --> 02:55:33,040
and uh i took it i took it to uh a drum

4288
02:55:37,510 --> 02:55:34,399
circle

4289
02:55:39,510 --> 02:55:37,520
and uh put it down on the altar

4290
02:55:41,429 --> 02:55:39,520
and the shaman that was there like

4291
02:55:45,429 --> 02:55:41,439
started to cry

4292
02:55:48,469 --> 02:55:45,439
and said oh my god is that a john of god

4293
02:55:51,269 --> 02:55:48,479
and i was like i don't know you know

4294
02:55:52,230 --> 02:55:51,279
some really serious stuff started going

4295
02:55:55,190 --> 02:55:52,240
down

4296
02:55:57,750 --> 02:55:55,200
in that that night at that circle

4297
02:55:59,269 --> 02:55:57,760
and then i i went back to the shop and i

4298
02:56:00,950 --> 02:55:59,279
asked

4299
02:56:03,030 --> 02:56:00,960
the owner i was like where did those

4300
02:56:05,830 --> 02:56:03,040
come from and he was like

4301
02:56:08,389 --> 02:56:05,840
oh those were john of god and he put his

4302
02:56:12,150 --> 02:56:08,399
finger over his lips

4303
02:56:14,309 --> 02:56:12,160
it was it was intense man

4304
02:56:19,510 --> 02:56:14,319
so

4305
02:56:22,870 --> 02:56:19,520
heard all the noise you know like

4306
02:56:24,389 --> 02:56:22,880
everybody else has but i can tell you

4307
02:56:25,510 --> 02:56:24,399
uh for sure

4308
02:56:26,950 --> 02:56:25,520
that that

4309
02:56:29,830 --> 02:56:26,960
that energy is

4310
02:56:32,630 --> 02:56:29,840
absolutely real yeah watch watch the

4311
02:56:34,550 --> 02:56:32,640
documentary now the thing is

4312
02:56:37,190 --> 02:56:34,560
i'm not saying that the documentary is

4313
02:56:39,269 --> 02:56:37,200
all bad and and

4314
02:56:40,389 --> 02:56:39,279
it's it's 50 50

4315
02:56:43,670 --> 02:56:40,399
because

4316
02:56:47,030 --> 02:56:43,680
there are quite a few testimonials in

4317
02:56:49,110 --> 02:56:47,040
this documentary about right uh

4318
02:56:51,590 --> 02:56:49,120
the successes that happened at that

4319
02:56:53,190 --> 02:56:51,600
house or they call it they call it the

4320
02:56:55,190 --> 02:56:53,200
house but it's

4321
02:56:57,990 --> 02:56:55,200
you know it's a compound it's it's

4322
02:57:00,469 --> 02:56:58,000
ginormous right um so

4323
02:57:01,349 --> 02:57:00,479
there's both sides are are presented

4324
02:57:04,070 --> 02:57:01,359
here

4325
02:57:06,550 --> 02:57:04,080
um it's it's it's fascinating and it

4326
02:57:10,070 --> 02:57:06,560
goes uh all the way back to before he

4327
02:57:13,590 --> 02:57:10,080
was john of god and so right just uh

4328
02:57:16,550 --> 02:57:13,600
just check it out it's uh and if you've

4329
02:57:19,349 --> 02:57:16,560
got any knowledge of john of god at all

4330
02:57:21,030 --> 02:57:19,359
you're gonna find this a an amazing uh

4331
02:57:22,550 --> 02:57:21,040
documentary it doesn't matter what side

4332
02:57:23,670 --> 02:57:22,560
of the fence you're on

4333
02:57:27,030 --> 02:57:23,680
if you have

4334
02:57:28,550 --> 02:57:27,040
then uh you're gonna learn something

4335
02:57:30,870 --> 02:57:28,560
from this it's uh it's a pretty

4336
02:57:32,550 --> 02:57:30,880
fascinating four episodes thank you so

4337
02:57:34,870 --> 02:57:32,560
much brian

4338
02:57:38,389 --> 02:57:34,880
yeah yeah yeah yeah take care man have a

4339
02:57:41,269 --> 02:57:38,399
great night and uh yeah i'm i'm telling

4340
02:57:42,469 --> 02:57:41,279
everybody uh just go and check it out it

4341
02:57:47,990 --> 02:57:42,479
doesn't matter

4342
02:57:49,830 --> 02:57:48,000
uh just just go watch it and uh we'll

4343
02:57:51,030 --> 02:57:49,840
talk about it on the next fader night

4344
02:57:55,269 --> 02:57:51,040
let's get back to the phones how you're

4345
02:57:55,279 --> 02:57:59,910
you're live hello yes you're live

4346
02:58:05,030 --> 02:58:03,190
jimmy yes you're live

4347
02:58:07,429 --> 02:58:05,040
hey jimmy church this is carvey reedy

4348
02:58:10,309 --> 02:58:07,439
i'm a trucker listen to you every night

4349
02:58:12,469 --> 02:58:10,319
right on and uh jimmy jimmy harold show

4350
02:58:15,269 --> 02:58:12,479
was really cool he's a great guy i love

4351
02:58:16,950 --> 02:58:15,279
some of the stories he has

4352
02:58:18,790 --> 02:58:16,960
and uh i'm gonna tell you about

4353
02:58:21,670 --> 02:58:18,800
experience i had

4354
02:58:25,269 --> 02:58:21,680
in new mexico can you do it

4355
02:58:27,990 --> 02:58:25,279
can you do it in 60 seconds

4356
02:58:33,590 --> 02:58:28,000
yeah okay go to the ufo

4357
02:58:37,670 --> 02:58:36,389
white bright lightnings perfect circular

4358
02:58:39,910 --> 02:58:37,680
light

4359
02:58:42,389 --> 02:58:39,920
out of my windshield and

4360
02:58:44,550 --> 02:58:42,399
the perfect round circle went straight

4361
02:58:45,670 --> 02:58:44,560
up in a straight line and then from both

4362
02:58:49,349 --> 02:58:45,680
tips

4363
02:58:52,230 --> 02:58:49,359
went into a snow cone to the right

4364
02:58:54,469 --> 02:58:52,240
and it like almost blinded me and then i

4365
02:58:55,590 --> 02:58:54,479
seen like a black object come out of the

4366
02:58:57,429 --> 02:58:55,600
tip and

4367
02:58:59,190 --> 02:58:57,439
i could swear it was

4368
02:59:07,110 --> 02:58:59,200
they're time traveling inside our

4369
02:59:11,190 --> 02:59:09,030
we get a lot of weird weird phone calls

4370
02:59:13,269 --> 02:59:11,200
which is the first one online

4371
02:59:15,110 --> 02:59:13,279
never heard anybody

4372
02:59:18,790 --> 02:59:15,120
see that type of description

4373
02:59:22,230 --> 02:59:18,800
um i i tell you what man it's new mexico

4374
02:59:24,950 --> 02:59:22,240
that's new mexico man

4375
02:59:28,710 --> 02:59:24,960
i know and you know are you driving are

4376
02:59:31,429 --> 02:59:28,720
you crazy are you driving right now

4377
02:59:32,790 --> 02:59:31,439
yeah yeah i'm actually on the 44 heading

4378
02:59:35,429 --> 02:59:32,800
to joplin

4379
02:59:36,950 --> 02:59:35,439
take walmart produce to uh pennsylvania

4380
02:59:39,590 --> 02:59:36,960
every week i'm back from southern cal i

4381
02:59:41,670 --> 02:59:39,600
live in chino hills so i'm a neighbor oh

4382
02:59:43,830 --> 02:59:41,680
there you go love chino hills too as

4383
02:59:45,990 --> 02:59:43,840
well great great part of the world well

4384
02:59:47,510 --> 02:59:46,000
i've got to run credits right now so i

4385
02:59:50,710 --> 02:59:47,520
want you

4386
02:59:52,309 --> 02:59:50,720
to be safe and and get your work done

4387
02:59:55,110 --> 02:59:52,319
but i'm going to say right now thank you

4388
02:59:57,750 --> 02:59:55,120
for everything that you do not only for

4389
03:00:00,150 --> 02:59:57,760
for us americans but for this country

4390
03:00:04,070 --> 03:00:00,160
and for the world okay you guys

4391
03:00:05,830 --> 03:00:04,080
and gals make this country run and thank

4392
03:00:15,429 --> 03:00:05,840
you

4393
03:00:17,030 --> 03:00:15,439
well that's i i was going to because

4394
03:00:19,990 --> 03:00:17,040
i've got to run credits before the

4395
03:00:22,550 --> 03:00:20,000
network cuts me off i had a sighting in

4396
03:00:24,870 --> 03:00:22,560
new mexico that was similar to that and

4397
03:00:27,429 --> 03:00:24,880
i will listen to the show tomorrow night

4398
03:00:29,110 --> 03:00:27,439
and i'll tell you all about it

4399
03:00:31,030 --> 03:00:29,120
you gotta listen to you every night bro

4400
03:00:33,429 --> 03:00:31,040
uh go back lee tubby jimmy you're a

4401
03:00:34,950 --> 03:00:33,439
great great guy go back lee tappy have a

4402
03:00:35,830 --> 03:00:34,960
great night and be safe out there on the

4403
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road

4404
03:00:40,389 --> 03:00:39,200
we love our truckers around here at fade

4405
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to block

4406
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i'm serious man i will say it again

4407
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thank you

4408
03:00:51,110 --> 03:00:48,479
out there listening

4409
03:00:53,910 --> 03:00:51,120
right now i appreciate it

4410
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we all do fade to black's executive

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producer

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phil j palm renee dennis and kevin

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announcers are steve harder gene vettel

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03:01:05,510 --> 03:01:03,359
mark d kovar webmaster is drew the geek

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03:01:08,389 --> 03:01:05,520
music doug aldrich intro spaceboy

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spaceboymusic.com

4417
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pay to block is produced by kjcr for the

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game changer network and syndication is

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kgra

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the planets

4421
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this broadcast owned a copyrighted 2021

4422
03:01:22,150 --> 03:01:19,680
by fade to black and the game changer

4423
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network inc it cannot be rebroadcast

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downloaded copied or used anywhere in

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the known universe without written

4426
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permission from fade to black or the

4427
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game changer network i'm your host jimmy

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church

4429
03:01:34,790 --> 03:01:33,040
tomorrow night right here daryl anka

4430
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we're gonna talk about his new film

4431
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alienated all that and much more but

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until then i want you to be safe

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it's time to fade to black